That’s fair. I just think being able to sell people on it is a high value part of any solution, and any system where you can’t know how your vote will be counted until you count all the other votes is necessarily a harder sell. As is any system where they will have to do something radically different.
As to knowing who wins. Well, that’s always the rub. There is no system that lets you know who wins before all the counting is done.
Not knowing who wins, but knowing who your ballot will be counted as a vote for in the end. The answer is you can’t know and it might just be tossed as no vote depending on how everyone else votes.
Imagine we’ve moved to STAR and leading up to the first STAR election for President someone asks you how to be sure their ballot will in the end be counted as a vote for Jill Stein. The answer is that you can’t, because until every other ballot is counted it’s impossible to know if any ballots at all can be counted as ballots for Jill Stein in the end. Let alone trying to report on the count as it happens in a coherent way your grandparents might understand.
Mathematically it’s great, but it fails at being easy to explain, easy to implement, and easy to report on. Especially to people used to FPTP. It fails in the parts that it needs to most succeed at socially to be a viable option to see adoption.
That’s fair. I just think being able to sell people on it is a high value part of any solution, and any system where you can’t know how your vote will be counted until you count all the other votes is necessarily a harder sell. As is any system where they will have to do something radically different.
Two rounds of counting. It’s more of a feature. Think of it as an automatic recount.
As to knowing who wins. Well, that’s always the rub. There is no system that lets you know who wins before all the counting is done.
Not knowing who wins, but knowing who your ballot will be counted as a vote for in the end. The answer is you can’t know and it might just be tossed as no vote depending on how everyone else votes.
Imagine we’ve moved to STAR and leading up to the first STAR election for President someone asks you how to be sure their ballot will in the end be counted as a vote for Jill Stein. The answer is that you can’t, because until every other ballot is counted it’s impossible to know if any ballots at all can be counted as ballots for Jill Stein in the end. Let alone trying to report on the count as it happens in a coherent way your grandparents might understand.
Mathematically it’s great, but it fails at being easy to explain, easy to implement, and easy to report on. Especially to people used to FPTP. It fails in the parts that it needs to most succeed at socially to be a viable option to see adoption.