• PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Wow kneejerk pseudo-science enshrined into law because one person out of 10,000,000 used a gun to kill someone. Do you think if he had used a car instead you’d see a similar response? why or why not?

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      16 hours ago

      i started to respond but there are so many things wrong with your inane hypothetical i quit a couple paragraphs in. just fucking light up some neurons

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        13 hours ago

        i started to respond but there are so many things wrong with your inane hypothetical i quit a couple paragraphs in. just fucking light up some neurons

        Yikes. It took you multiple paragraphs before you understood how goddamn reactionary the Austrian response is. And while you understand it’s wrong, you refuse to accept it. Liberal to the core. Please do not vote again for everyone’s sake.

    • theprogressivist @lemmy.world
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      Probably the most goddamn idiotic take I’ve fucking seen. And what makes this even funnier is your smug attitude.

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        Honestly just seems like a run-of-the-mill US red state take. “Muh gunz” is where it stops for them, fuck kids dying, we need more guns. If everyone carried an assault rifle the world would be at peace because there would be a good guy with a gun stopping the bad guy with a gun or something like that. They call it culture as far as I understand.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 days ago

      Cars are tools for transportation that, unfortunately, sometimes result in death.

      Firearms (specifically handguns and AR-type long guns) are machines specifically designed to kill humans. That’s it.

      If you can’t understand the difference, I don’t know what to tell you.

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        It’s wild how much of a slam dunk 2A Evangelists think the car argument is.

        Also, cars are dangerous AF. Tens of thousands of people die a year because of them. Hence why we have licenses and maintenance rules and an unbelievably extensive road system with clear signals and lights.

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          Also, cars are dangerous AF. Tens of thousands of people die a year because of them. Hence why we have licenses and maintenance rules and an unbelievably extensive road system with clear signals and lights.

          And despite all these rules, the number of car deaths is much greater then any other cause of death. It’s not a lack of rules that are the problem with cars (nor guns).

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              24 hours ago

              If there is no reason for them anymore, because there aren’t cars as a form of private transportation then hell yea I’m on board.

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            The point is the number would be even higher. Unrestricted/unregulated car usage would be utterly insane. Surely I don’t need to spell this out?

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      Ooh, ooh! Pick me! It’s because transportation is infinitely more societally useful than punching imprecise holes in things in one of the most dangerous ways accessible to most individuals! There are lots of reasons to ban or limit the use of cars in various public places, but those types of attacks are a reason to install and use bollards.

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        2 days ago

        Agreed, so we should be building trains which are way faster, safer and environmentally friendly then cars if we actually care about saving lives.

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            Which is a completely irrelevant point here

            So if the point isn’t to save lives, what is the point?

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              2 days ago

              The school shooting. Reading the article will help answer these types of questions. I’ll mute you for a while to give you time.

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        Kinda yes but no? There’s minimum standards for gun control in the EU and thus the “right to bear arms” countries (Austria, Czechia, Poland, Baltic states, Finland) regularly have work cut out for them when the framework gets tightened while the “may issue” and “don’t issue” countries are perpetually in overcompliance.

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      You’re totally right, and this is supported the data! The USA has the least restrictive gun laws of any major developed country but has similar rates of gun violence as all other developed…oh wait, never mind, the USA has by far the highest gun violence rates of any major developed nation.

      Our per capita rate of gun violence is comparable to countries like Somalia, Iraq, and Haiti.

      And also, car deaths is a huge issue too, and we should restrict car ownership and encourage mass transit and related infrastructure. Making more of our cities pedestrian-only locations protected by bollards, would also make people even safer from both accidental and intentional car deaths.

      It’s also way better for the environment and thus, people’s long term health, leading to even higher life spans and better happiness.

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        22 hours ago

        And get safer cars. The US has some kind of car arms race going on where you need a super large heavy car to be safe because the roads are full of big heavy cars… Resulting in much more deadly crashes for everyone. Besides most states driving test is a joke.

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          Cars are much safer than they used to be.

          Over the shoulder seat belts, ABS, airbags, crumple zones, stability control, etc all help prevent accidents and he’ll you walk away from any that still happen.

          • A Wild Mimic appears!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            They are safe for car passengers, and a nightmare for everyone else on the street. High hoods with bad sight for drivers and awful impact profile for pedestrians, heavy cars which make low speed collisions much more deadly for everyone not protected by 3 tons of steel. Safety should be for everyone, not only car passengers.