Sure buddy, China has a lot of fascist traits, such as being extremely sensitive towards different ethnical groups in the country (go to a history museum in China and you’ll see that they have specific signs discussing the different ethnicities at the period), lifting a billion people from poverty, land redistribution, quality social services and no use of militarism for the past half century. But I guess that, for you, not getting to vote once every 4 years for the lesser evil who will regardless defund the social services and pursue austerity policy is the highest expression of anti-fascism.
Extremely sensitive towards different ethnic groups? You mean, only the ones they care about? Cause the Uyghurs, amongst other ethnic groups, have something to say to that
I’m not saying they have no good ideas, and they do have good social policies… But let’s not forget that they also repress like hell, using military force if necessary, only allow one party: their own, control the media, jail political opponents (funny, that’s what you were complaining about earlier) and journalists… Guess what, all of this is a bunch of fascist traits.
Fascism doesn’t forbid to inplement policies that are good for the population.
And well, yeah, we’re discussing concepts that protect democracy, so I’m expecting you to show examples of democracies. Democracy implies… voting, yeah.
You’re clearly not here in good faith, so I’ll leave you to your propaganda! Cheers! Hope you manage to move to China someday.
Cause the Uyghurs, amongst other ethnic groups, have something to say to that
What do they have to say? Have you seen polls in Xinjiang or Tibet of degree of satisfaction with the government? I guarantee you they’re much higher than in Catalonia, Quebec, Scotland or any of the Chinatowns/Chicagos of the US.
You mean, only the ones they care about?
Come on, tell me the economic growth in Xinjiang compared to the rest of the country, and now do the same for Scotland. Give me the actual data, and then tell me, to my face, that the Chinese government doesn’t care about its ethnicities more than western governments. For fuck’s sake, have you seen the rate of incarceration of black people in the USA? About one in four black men in the USA go through the prison system in their lives.
let’s not forget that they also repress like hell
That’s your perspective as a westerner. My country, Spain, has political prisoners such as Carles Puigdemont, a so-called “Ley Mordaza” (mouthgag law) has been implemented for 15 years against protestors, and if you go to the USA they have masked agents kidnapping people, putting them in unmarked vans and deporting them. I seriously don’t think china is significantly more repressive than that. Unless you’re willing to concede that Spain and the USA are fascist, why would you say that for China?
Sure buddy, China has a lot of fascist traits, such as being extremely sensitive towards different ethnical groups in the country (go to a history museum in China and you’ll see that they have specific signs discussing the different ethnicities at the period), lifting a billion people from poverty, land redistribution, quality social services and no use of militarism for the past half century. But I guess that, for you, not getting to vote once every 4 years for the lesser evil who will regardless defund the social services and pursue austerity policy is the highest expression of anti-fascism.
Extremely sensitive towards different ethnic groups? You mean, only the ones they care about? Cause the Uyghurs, amongst other ethnic groups, have something to say to that
I’m not saying they have no good ideas, and they do have good social policies… But let’s not forget that they also repress like hell, using military force if necessary, only allow one party: their own, control the media, jail political opponents (funny, that’s what you were complaining about earlier) and journalists… Guess what, all of this is a bunch of fascist traits.
Fascism doesn’t forbid to inplement policies that are good for the population.
And well, yeah, we’re discussing concepts that protect democracy, so I’m expecting you to show examples of democracies. Democracy implies… voting, yeah.
You’re clearly not here in good faith, so I’ll leave you to your propaganda! Cheers! Hope you manage to move to China someday.
What do they have to say? Have you seen polls in Xinjiang or Tibet of degree of satisfaction with the government? I guarantee you they’re much higher than in Catalonia, Quebec, Scotland or any of the Chinatowns/Chicagos of the US.
Come on, tell me the economic growth in Xinjiang compared to the rest of the country, and now do the same for Scotland. Give me the actual data, and then tell me, to my face, that the Chinese government doesn’t care about its ethnicities more than western governments. For fuck’s sake, have you seen the rate of incarceration of black people in the USA? About one in four black men in the USA go through the prison system in their lives.
That’s your perspective as a westerner. My country, Spain, has political prisoners such as Carles Puigdemont, a so-called “Ley Mordaza” (mouthgag law) has been implemented for 15 years against protestors, and if you go to the USA they have masked agents kidnapping people, putting them in unmarked vans and deporting them. I seriously don’t think china is significantly more repressive than that. Unless you’re willing to concede that Spain and the USA are fascist, why would you say that for China?
Then why are there multiple parties in the National People’s Congress and its standing body the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress?
Again, a strategy used all over the west.