• Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    6 months ago

    That is the stupidest video I’ve seen in a long time.

    How much fucking anime do you have to watch to determine the perfect starting position is with the gun upside down and one elbow well above your head.

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    6 months ago

    Creating insane levels of cringe to justify “we had a mix of pistols when the military was formed with different safety mechanisms so we picked empty chamber as the common denominator for safety”

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      6 months ago

      If you’re carrying the gun expecting to have to defend yourself, slowing your ability to return fire is dangerous. As long as your gun is drop-safe (looking at you, P320), carrying with a round in the chamber is safe.

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        Yeah dropping it was one thing I thought, the other was if the trigger is accidentally snagged? Or is there a safety mechanism involved as well that makes it safer to carry chambered?

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          For a pistol, you protect against trigger pulls with a holster that fully covers the trigger so nothing can touch it. You can also use a pistol with a manual safety, but that’s not in vogue in the US any more because Glock got popular and now everybody thinks sweeping a safety off when you draw a weapon somehow adds time to the draw. For a long gun, you just use the safety and the trigger won’t fire the gun.

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            Ah I see. Glocks don’t have a safety? I’m surprised they are so popular then. Or maybe it’s evidence that a safety is obsolete?

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              They have a “trigger” safety which prevents the trigger from moving if it’s not depressed squarely on the front. They’re also drop-safe. Most people will tell you a safety on a handgun is obsolete these days, but I don’t agree. Fortunately a lot of manufacturers will still have thumb safety equipped models available, although not all of them.

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              They have a trigger safety which blocks the trigger from being pulled unless you have your finger in the trigger, then a set of internal mechanisms that also prevent the striker from hitting the cartridge without having the trigger pulled. It consists of:

              • a striker block that must be lifted by fully pulling the trigger, in order to allow the striker to access the rear of the cartridge
              • The striker is brought to full cock as part of the trigger pull, and released. At rest it is in a half-cock position where even if the striker block fails, it does not have enough energy to set off the cartridge
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      As others have explained, different pistols have different safety mechanisms. Some older designs are not as robust, that’s where you see some being described as “drop safe” and others as not being “drop safe”

      In general, you want to have a primary safety that prevents the trigger from accidentally being pulled, and then a series of secondary mechanisms that prevent the firing pin from accidentally hitting the cartridge, even if the trigger hasn’t been pulled (i.e. the gun is dropped)