Every since I was a small kid, asthma has always been a problem. I’ve had many a sleepless night because of weezing and inhaler of empty, which is a horror that I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Also just waking up to the realisation that one can’t breathe, even with the inhaler nearby, ain’t fun.

The article on outdoor air pollution that I reposted had me thinking. I’ve had moderately bad asthma my entire life. I’ve always needed to have a rescue inhaler near me at all times. For half of the year, since aged ten or do, I’ve needed a steroidal inhaler, otherwise I’d be hitting the rescue inhaler all day. But something happened around some unspecified time in the last few years that my asthma just disappeared. Fuck I wish I could pinpoint the year, it’s just something that happened without notice, and I chalked it up to “people grow out of asthma”.

Since 2020, I’ve been consistently doing the n95 thing, as well as nearly always having a HEPA filter on around me when indoors.

I guess I’m curious how likely it is I grew out of asthma vs just cleaner air. I wish I could have more data on my symptom timeline, but those memories are just a blur.

As a mod of c/covid, I promise that no one will get banned for saying “nah people do grow out of asthma”.

  • Monstertruckenjoyer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    I grew out of my asthma in my early 20s, this was prior to masking and COVID. I was actually talking about this yesterday, that even though I’m older now, I breathe better than when I was younger

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    My symptoms have mostly subsided, but every odd year my throat gets a little too dry on a random day and I get to coughing / wheezing. Sometimes eating ice cream can still make me cough.

    Im very sensitive to air quality, AQI 50+ I start getting a bad headache and feeling things tightening – so masking outdoors and hepa filter is a must.

  • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I had a few friends that grew out of asthma, or at the very least it got way way better over the years. I don’t know anything about the science behind it, but from collective experience of my peers, asthma seems to be able to get dramatically better as you age. I don’t know that air filters and masks would help, but its always cool to be masked up anyway, right?

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    Growing up, elevation played a major part in how bad my asthma was. But when I moved to a lower elevation the majority of the problems subsided. Then working a couple years of manufacturing, and two more years after that in a smokey environment, my asthma flairs up a lot more frequently. I was getting a lot better at masking up, but I’ve kinda backslid again. They definitely do help filter out all the smoke and shit from the air

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    I purportedly had asthma as a young kid but grew out of it. Then again I had a completely fabricated tree nut allergy so I don’t know what’s real

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    I know one person who essentially did “grow out” of asthma, they always had an inhaler on them growing up but sometime in their mid-20s I noticed they were never using it and eventually I asked them and all attacks had stopped for >3 years by that point. I’m also aware of someone who died from an asthma attack in their 20s. It’s plausible to me that it could effectively go away though - if someone was being exposed to a fairly consistent baseline amount of airborne pollutants for much of their life, and then for whatever reason was primarily breathing significantly cleaner air for long enough.

    Everything respiratory is weird, sinuses especially. I personally cured my lifelong chronic sinusitis through an hour of hard intermittent humming 4x a week and playing 100Hz tones into my sinus cavities to manipulate the pressures. Somebody from Hanoi, VN that I met was unable to exist outside for decades of their life without masks due to breathing problems, lived in another part of the world and was able to return to Hanoi without issues for a decade+.

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    Anecdotally my asthma has also got dramatically more controlled since I started consistently using an n95 in all public spaces and routinely changing out my HEPA filters. I’ve had mild-moderate asthma my whole life.

    I figured it was all the weed smoke improving the situation, but it’s uncanny going to that from routinely leaning on a rescue inhaler unless I am religious about using my steroid inhaler. I did switch to a combination one, but I don’t think that’s responsible, as many days I will not even need to use it.

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    I think you’ve just cleared out your lungs for long enough where if you don’t mask for a bit it’s fine. But eventually it would build up again and you’d be square one.

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    So, if you are having reduced symptoms while wearing a respiratory that tracks with theory. There are several categories of induced asthma where environmental irritants exasterbate symptoms. The classic case is kids getting asthma at pet dander. Howver irritants like smoke are known to exasterbate symptoms as well

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    No clue, but also who knows what the f we’re breathing at any given moment in this hell world. Unless you’re out in the boonies you’re basically always within ten miles of a major roadway or construction or something that’s kicking pollutants into the air. I was house sitting the other day and noticed a massive plume of smoke off in the distance. Checked Google maps and it looks like some landscaping company was burning all of their mulch or whatever within like a mile of a ticky tacky box development. Who knows how often they’re doing that or what the residents are breathing in while unaware.

    Edit: lol wrote half asleep, fixed some words.

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    I thought I had asthma as a kid because I had breathing issues that I got an inhaler for that I eventually stopped needing

    As an adult I saw an infographic about how kids describe anaphylaxis and learned that what I had was not asthma and I could’ve fucking died and my adoptive parents really didnt give a shit

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    AFAIK it’s (in part) a hormonal thing? Testosterone-fueled puberty tends to improve asthma symptoms and estrogen-fueled puberty worsens them. There is some evidence base for this being a phenomenon but I don’t have any references handy. I haven’t seen anyone give a mechanical basis for it either, but it can happen.

    My own asthma went from being crippling to an inconvenience after puberty #1 and stayed an inconvenience until puberty #2 when it worsened somewhat again. It’s never been as bad as it was when I was a kid since puberty #1 though.

    Current Global Initiative for Asthma treatment guidelines for asthma recommend avoiding rescue inhaler use as much as possible, managing it as an inflammatory airway condition with inhaled corticosteroids and adding scheduled long-acting beta agonists if symptoms aren’t well-controlled. Albuterol overuse can worsen symptoms over the long run.

    Sources to come if I can find them and have the time!

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    I have/had similar levels of asthma. It’s currently functionally gone but on the occasion where I get some kind of respiratory flu or I’m exposed to one of my allergen for a significant enough period of time my asthma comes back to verying degrees. Usually when I’m not exposed to either situation I’m functionally asthma free, I can run without wheezing, get pollen bukkakaed and just sneeze, have the campfire smoke follow me around with the express purpose of turning me into jerky and there’s not one bit of asthmatic response.

    I have no idea whether or not I grew out of it because for pretty much my entire youth I had the usual asthma steroids but also was a guinea pig for all sorts of East Asian traditional medicine. I’ve had shit ranging from Tiantian Baicao Tea to deer antler soup to spoonfuls of bee royal jelly to tinctures made out of of random shit you find in the woods. Personally I think the tiantian baicao tea had more visible effects on my respiratory health, but it’s all uh personal conjecture and not scientific fact.

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      Funny enough I used to be really into traditional medicine. I sort of read some (not 100% damning) research papers and now I’m off it. The problem was that the practitioners had some weird ass theories, like the eat and coldness of my body. A lot of them became anti-vax, so that didn’t help anything.

      I’m sure your traditional doctors were better than mine.

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        What traditional doctors? burgerpain

        burgerpants-dejected I was fed wild shit by the Korean side of the family to the point I’m actually glad they’re catholic or else I’d be afraid of how far they’d had been willing to go with the mystic bullshit if they still were animists. I’m at least grateful that it seems like it either had an unquantifiable positive effect or at least had no impact on my health as it currently stands.