before the french revolution, the people lived in harmony. there were rich aristocrats, creating jobs and innovating science, and their peasants, basking in the light and radiance of their betters and applauding their beauty.
then the french revolution happened, and a great evil was loosed into the world.
they speak of France like it’s A:TLA lol…
They think Tibet is literally the air nomads.
and of China like Ba Sing Se… 🤣
Steven Pinker is a pedophile and his entire job is being Bill Gates’ court jester.
Pinker the Thinker with another Stinker
first napoleon being fascist is some newfound line of thought, ngl. usually euros think him great enlightened leader on the horseback
Liberals when seeing the seeds of fascism in liberalism: Is Napoleon fascist?
I mean it really reads like transposition of trotsky critique of stalinism as bonapartism (which is about the third) multiplied by hannah arendt fascist theories and you get just incomprehensible combo (via “doing stuff bad, getting bill gates propagandabux - good”) all revolutions bad and give fascism, reformism good
p.s. metternich - good?
Ah yes because Russia, China, everywhere else, was well on track to a prosperous future before the revolution…
Just taking for granted that the improvements since were going to happen even if the revolution didn’t happen, rather than attributing everything since to the revolution itself.
If capitalism had been allowed to flourish in Russia, well, just think of all the hypothetical babies that wouldn’t have been hypothetically murdered by not being hypothetically born.
If capitalism had been allowed to flourish in Russia it would’ve been a second Africa exporting wealth to the western imperial core.
People just do revolution for fun
imagine calling the chinese revolution disastrous as a westerner in 2025
You hate to see it folks; liberals turning their backs on their own greatest achievements.
Napoleon as a protofascist is a surprising take coming from a lib.
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1965767084530606453
This is such a ridiculous take in so many ways.
First of all, his numbers are WILDLY inflated, and I do mean wildly. The French revolution, for instance, didn’t “kill 2 million people”: most historians would agree that direct deaths from the Revolution (including the Terror) were around 30,000-40,000. He’s off by a factor of 60… He is also WILDLY off for his Russia and China numbers but I won’t go there 😏
Secondly, calling Napoleon a “facist totalitarian dictator” is laughable, if only because fascism is a 20th-century ideology with racial hierarchy at its core.
Napoleon was a classical emperor - brutal at times, but no different from countless emperors before him. By this logic, every Ottoman sultan or Roman emperor was also a ‘fascist totalitarian dictator,’ which either makes the term meaningless or makes Napoleon not the first, which means his affirmation is false either way. Plus, fascism requires strong racial components which Napoleon completely lacked - he was promoting meritocracy and civil equality under the law in Europe, not ethnic supremacy.
Thirdly, yes revolutions tend to be bloody. But guess what: sometimes peacefully requesting for the powerful to voluntarily dismantle the entire system that benefits them doesn’t work out. Strange, isn’t it? Marie-Antoinette wasn’t exactly famous for her empathy toward starving peasants.
Lastly this is such a weird take coming from Pinker whose entire brand is about the supposed triumph of Enlightenment values, of which the French Revolution was the defining political expression.
This may make a little more sense when you consider that his other “brand” is his claim that Liberalism is fundamentally peaceful and rational: you can understand how he isn’t quite comfortable with the fact that the Enlightenment values he champions were won with blood, not debate.
This is quintessential liberal hypocrisy - wanting change without conflict, revolution without revolutionaries. Liberals like Pinker want to live in a world created by revolutionary violence while condemning that violence as barbaric.
Napoleon wasn’t really a “classic” emperor, he was the first one that was a lib
The first liberal emperor. What an insult that is.
europe has never forgiven him
Yeah I was coming to say this.
fascist totalitarian dictator
To be fair the french put like haitian prisoners into the bowels of ships and gased them.
Don’t need to be a fascist to be genocidal. Just european
Stalin killed 20 million
lol
he ate 20 million people.
And that’s just his own people! He also killed another few million Germans at the exact same time!@
Me when I hear bonapartism
My enemies are many, my equals are none. In the shade of olive trees, they said Italy could never be conquered.
In the land of Pharaohs and Kings, they said Egypt could never be humbled. In the realm of forest and snow, they said Russia could never be tamed.
Now they say nothing. They fear me, like a force of nature, a dealer in thunder and death! I say: I am Napoleon, I am Emperor.
Napoleon being fascist is hilarious
Stephen pinker is such a fucking moron
You can use “perhaps” as a weasel word except when it is “perhaps a century” and the 3rd french republic was founded less than a century later. then there’s no adverb which can save a provably false statement.
“After the declaring independence in 1776 the newly formed United States enjoyed perhaps a century of peace with Britain before conflict reignited thirty-six years later in 1812.”
-Steven “my brain was sewn together out of used assholes” Pinker
led to the restoration of monarchy
Yeah he really shouldn’t’ve done that to preserve {checks notes] the monarchy?
there twere two reigns of terror. two. TWO!
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