This young evangelical guy is one of the most popular man in the US. Many americans respect him.
He said Joe Biden was an illegitimate President because Trump won the 2020 US Presidential Election.
He had no issue when JD Vance falsely accused Haitians in Ohio of eating cats and dogs. It didn’t bother him at all that these people received death threats.
He praised Trump for sending people with no criminal records to prison in South America (1) (2)
He said the US had wonderful gun laws that shouldn’t change. He thinks Canadian gun laws are silly.
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113
I don’t condone violence or murder. But I’m not going to cry either. Sorry.
I don’t condone violence, but I do celebrate his death as the world is now a little less hateful
The problem is that you have two sides who are against each other
One side just wants to live freely and happily
The other side wants to be allowed to hate, discriminate, lock up, and even murder those that they don’t like, which is always people with darker skin, women, religions other than evangelical christianity, and of course people who sexually like to do different than them. They also want to be allowed to lie about everyone they hate to be able to stir up even more hate.
Now that somebody shot a guy from that second group, I have to feel bad? Fuck that shit, I’m happy. There is one less hateful person on this world.
I condone it.
Due to political figures like him, tens of thousands of Americans are shot and killed each year
I feel sorry for the innocents killed, not the people that helped promote gun violence
He was a racist piece of propagandist shit. One less
moufhead to feed on this lonely rock, I say.I’d never heard of this guy until yesterday. He is some social media influencer that believed in the 2nd amendment. Apparently MAGA people are losing their shit, Fox News commentator claims this is an act of war.
Social media bubbles are wild.
And they want a moment of silence for him in europe, the other side of the ocean to them. Go suck your dusty mums, how about that? Moment of silence for your political crony barely any1 even knows? You’ve got a cheek.
“He had a wife and kids” - so do 30% of the civilian gazan casualties, the other 70% are the wives and kids themselves in Gaza, all deaths he condoned, so do I care about his death? No. Live by it die by it 🤷♂️
How many Ukrainians die per day?
I am pretty sure sure europe is tap out on empathy…
Don’t get me started on Gaza
Us right are clowns
You don’t have to. You have nothing to prove to them.
While you are busy signaling how honorable you are, not only are they condoning it, but they are carrying it out on anything remotely hispanic or that just suits their political intentions at the moment. 11 dead on a boat, torture by ICE and deaths hidden by deportations to “shit-hole countries”, financing and enabling a modern day genocide. While you are busy white knighting your ideals, they will be busy coming up with real or fake reasons to condone it against you.
Zero tolerance of intolerance. Revolutions are led by people like Luigi, not people justifying fractional improvements in a system decaying by strides. The guy should not have died, but society should not be in the state they have rushed it into. There are no perfect solutions in imperfect systems. I did not give a shit about the guy, but I certainly won’t begin to give a shit about him now.
“I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so we can have the second amendment to protect our other god-given rights.”
“We cannot allow them [the shooting victim/s] to emotionally hijack the narrative.”
He died by a shot that could only have been made by a high powered rifle. Words to live for, words to die for. While not respected, they are poetic.
It was a .30-06 bolt action rifle from about 200 yards away, I thought?
Good thing high-powered bolt action rifles, like cars, have an identifying license plate equivalent serial number and registered bullet “fingerprint” imprints which can be traced because of adequate gun laws. /s
Kirk said gun deaths were worth it to keep the 2nd Amendment. I’m sure he’d include his own in that opinion.
He was about to say that again before he was cut off.
Well he did have “Change my mind” all over that event. Maybe he changed his mind on that, but we’ll never know.
All we can say is that someone gave it a shot.
Proved wrong
The 2nd amendment was made for kings but fascists work, Kirk died doing what he loved.
Schadenfreude
I like to judge people by their own standards, making sure to apply their own ideology to them. This is why I’m perfectly fine with fascists getting shot, or conservatives going hungry or without medical care, or bullies being beat up, or bigots being ostracized. It’s all tragic… But it’s what they wish for, so I’ll celebrate for them.
Dude literally said some collateral damage is a-ok in defense of the second amendment. Remember him for who he was and knowing he was perfectly fine with other people going out this way, so why is he any different? He reaped what he sowed.
And I’m seeing a bit of “well we shouldnt celebrate this” type bs. No. Fuck that, full stop. If you’re such a miserable sack of shit that people celebrate your death, then be a better person when you’re alive if you don’t want that. You don’t get to ignore human decency your entire life and then cower behind it in death.
“Live by it die by it” he wasn’t killed for his opinions, they weren’t his he was a puppet and a good little bitch for his daddy trump. 300k USD of taxpayer money was spent on this man per annum, the shooter js did what Elon started and cut public spending 🤷♂️
This is a good approach, genuinely.
This is copium. This is how a person deals with spiritual collapse in a shitty world.
Not the literal meaning of spiritual, but yes absolutely. I try not to be apathetic but I’ve been more or less beaten into it; so the least I can do is be selective.
i’ll save my sympathy for the victims of evergreen high school who also had a school shooting but who won’t get covered because the media will be swooning over this ghoul.
I had no idea until you mentioned it.
https://www.denverpost.com/2025/09/10/evergreen-high-school-shooting/
In a statement, Gov. Jared Polis said he was carefully monitoring the situation at Evergreen High and Colorado State Patrol troopers were on scene to support local law enforcement.
“Students should be able to attend school safely and without fear across our state and nation. We are all praying for the victims and the entire community,” Polis said.
U.S. Rep. Brittany Pettersen, whose district includes Evergreen, said in a statement she was “shocked and heartbroken” to learn about the shooting.
Wow. These statements really make it seem like American politicians are motivated to put a stop to gun violence.
The shooting at Evergreen High is at least the seventh school shooting in Colorado since the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School that killed 13 students and one teacher.
Well not that motivated
Reddit is going to ban a lot of people today. Some of them might end up signing up for Lemmy.
I got no sympathy for Nazis, the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi
So Kirk is now a good Nazi.
Now go get me some scalps.
I will not celebrate violence. I will not celebrate murder. It’s wrong.
I’m sure he loved his wife. He loved his church. He loved his kids.
But this very same man had no issue with throwing men with no criminal records in horrific south american prisons. Men who simply wanted a better life.
He had no issue with spreading lies about election results, even if the result was violence.
He had no issue with lying about legal Haitian migrants eating dogs and cats, even if they received countless death threats.
He believed Canadian gun laws were silly, any angry man should be able to easily purchase guns. He didn’t respect Canadians. He laughed at them.
I don’t want to sound like a horrible monster, but it’s hard for me to feel empathy.
“I can’t stand the word empathy actually. I think empathy is a made-up, New Age term that — it does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics,” - Charlie Kirk
That cannot be a real quote Jesus Christ
There’s a concerted conservative effort to make empathy a bad thing. Research it. There are many conservative pundits trying to portray empathy as bad.
I know that’s how they act, just hearing in such plain words is shocking. Who the fuck hears that and agrees? Cult.
Do you have two and half hours to spare? Here’s an excellent video by Lindsay Ellis about the same topic.
And yet here we are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A54Hkn0vcBY
Yup, it is among the ridiculous (and now somewhat ironic) things he said.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-empathy-quote/
You can absolutely be against violence and murder and still celebrate that someone awful is dead.
You certainly have no obligation to feel any amount of sympathy.
2 comments from a yt clip of London radio LBC in which James O’brien discusses this with viewers, which I’d say summarise this well:
I celebrate because he tried to erase me and i outlived him.
free Luigi
I will in fact celebrate his death. We got here because we allowed tolerance to go WAY too far. Shame needs to make a comeback and if you actively advocate against other people being treated with basic decency, then your death deserves no decency itself. Respect is a two way street - a social contract. You break that and no one owes you shit.
Yup, cheers!!
I mean, I feel sorry for his kids. They didn’t choose this life. But I would have felt sorry for them even if he didn’t get shot.
He chose his lifestyle. He upset a lot of people and actively defended gun violence. And that did him in.
So it goes.
"Laws are threats made by the dominant socioeconomic-ethnic group in a given nation. It’s just the promise of violence that’s enacted and the police are basically an occupying army.” - Brennan Lee Mulligan
He loved his church
He found his church to be a convenient venue for his hate speech.
there’s no need to celebrate his death. it’s enough merely to acknowledge the fact that the world is a better place without him, however it happened.
Who not both?
(But in Spanish, I’m short of time - sorry.)
¿Porque no los dos?
por qué no los dos?
I’m not saying you can’t. I’m just saying it isn’t necessary. doesn’t mean it might not feel good, what do I know
We’re not supposed to cheer the death of those that cheer on the death of tens of thousands of children? The guy was a zionist through and through and the world is better off with one less. Himmler had a family too you know…
Kirk was more a Goebbels than a Himmler, though.
Still, the point doesn’t change. Goebbels had a family too.
This is the way.
Do not let those with a monopoly on violence tell you that violence is wrong.
I told my buddy. That intersecting Charlie’s wishes and provide no empathy to the situation. It would be weak to care about his death. Thanks Charlie. And my buddy had a meltdown.
