1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn’t want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he’s doing his stream
2 is self-explanatory
1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn’t want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he’s doing his stream
2 is self-explanatory
Calling it “angry” is an overstatement, he sounds annoyed, and probably because he’s in the middle of doing his full time job which appears to be an enormous pain in the ass in part thanks to weird obsessed people like you. The “potentially responsible use case” for a training collar is training, fucking duh, the only people generally committed to not accepting that fact are PETA types and nobody cares what they think so you’re gonna have to do better than this if you want anyone to take you seriously. Nobody here has presented any evidence yet for 4 continuous hours, I’ve seen a 56 second clip and a time lapse that claims 4 hours but features multiple extremely obvious cuts, again you’re gonna have to do better.
So what is he training the dog to do?
The clip is the crux of the evidence. The time lapse is just to contextualise how much the dog has moved. Let’s assume that he did shock the dog, what evidence would you require beyond the clip?
Having a dog stay in a bed or crate when they’ve been a pain in the ass is actually pretty common and I think you already know that, it’s called time-out and it’s also commonly used with small children and nobody with a working brain calls that abusive either
The clip does fuck all to even hint at abuse, the time lapse has multiple obvious cuts making any claim about the duration shown or the location of the dog for that duration entirely worthless, your commitment to pretending otherwise makes it extremely obvious that you don’t actually care what the truth is and are just looking for an excuse to smear a streamer you don’t like
This is absolutely wrong. One of the most important things about crate training is that you don’t use “go to your crate!” as a punishment. It’s an emotionally satisfying thing to do if you’re having trouble with your anger or something, but it absolutely fucks up the dog’s training that you are trying to do (or what you should be trying to do, I’m going under the assumption that you’re not a psychopath here).
https://smartdoglearning.com/dog-crate-training-101-how-to-make-the-crate-your-dogs-bff/
I don’t really know shit about dog training, but even I know that.
You also shouldn’t say “Kaya! Please!” “Go ba–” “Stop!” when what you mean is “Place!” and the dog didn’t do a damn wrong. But again, I already know that me saying these things is going to mean nothing to you. Just one of you guys found a new way to piss me off with animal-abuse-apologia, so I wanted to say something about it.
Cool story, unfortunately you still have no evidence and no credibility
Holy God why are you still following me around lol
Okay, sounds good, I’ll make another post, let’s see if that helps with my credibility
“Following you around” lol you’re still posting about the same inane shit on a platform I use, you’re not being followed you came here voluntarily dumbass
Making another post will absolutely not help your credibility, what it will do is lend more credence to the idea that you are an obsessed Hasan hater on a smear campaign
Oh, I didn’t even notice that this particular message from you saying “you still have no evidence and no credibility” was unlike the other ones actually in response to something I said to you. I guess that’s legit lol.
Anyway how bout that contrast-adjusted image? What do you feel like those little circles are likely to be?
No evidence, no credibility, seek help
Enjoy: https://piefed.social/post/1354201
Lol definitely not beating the “obsessed with Hasan” allegations anytime soon, still no evidence still no credibility, consider seeking professional help
Sounds good! I crossposted it to !videos@lemmy.world just now.
I feel like the photo of the shock collar itself (look at the contrast-adjusted version), clearly showing the tape and outlines of the prong sockets, as well as what model it is, could in some environments be considered “evidence.” But I know we all have our definitions about things. If only I had gone on stream and gotten really condescending about how I was right and all my enemies were stupid, instead of wasting my time with looking at Hasan’s own video…
No evidence, no credibility, seek help
It’s funny how you’re coming up with a barrage of excuses for every possible option, even ignoring Hasan’s own statements. Why are you defending him from the claim that he used a shock collar if he literally said it’s not a shock collar at all? If the sped up video is not proof that the dog was kept in one single place the entire time, why defend the idea that the dog was kept there for hours on end? If the dog wasn’t forced to be there, why was Hasan angry at it for walking out?
You’re really not interested in the truth yourself - you’re not trying to explain the video itself, judging the likelihood of this and that explanation against each other, it’s just about finding every explanation that excuses Hasan, no matter how nonsensical. That’s also why you ignored my question (Let’s assume that he did shock the dog, what evidence would you require beyond the clip?) - you can’t even theoretically imagine something that could convince you he did shock the dog.
Personally, I have a mild dislike for streamers in general (Hasan not particularly standing out among them), it’s a weird and evidently socially unhealthy phenomenon, but in this case I’d probably forget about the situation within a day if I didn’t see so much aggressive, vitriolic and gaslight-y defending of the guy from his fans.
“Time out” for hours on end - that would veer into abusiveness.
Idk whether you’re a phillip alt or just indistinguishably brain-poisoned and I don’t particularly care, nothing presented here is evidence of animal abuse and your insistence on pretending otherwise is not helping your credibility. If you want normal people to accept the idea that Hasan is abusing his dog you’re going to have to do better than a clip of it yipping once and a heavily edited time lapse of it laying down.