• morgan423@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I bet if you asked him if he was a Bob’s Burgers fan, he’d say yes and not be bothered at all that two of the lead female characters are played by men.

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            1 year ago

            just don’t accept that as an acceptable norm

            gosh if only there were a name for this phenomenon

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            1 year ago

            Imagine thinking that forcing religion and heterosexual norms on a child will change their mind. Your religion does not dictate mine or my kids lives or lifestyles and don’t want that religious indoctrination forced on to us.

            Some people (Ally’s, LGBTQIA+, Genderqueer individuals, etc…) just don’t accept that as an acceptable norm in their culture and don’t want their children to think it’s an acceptable lifestyle. As someone who has a plethora of religious friends and acquaintances and comes from one of those liberal cultures I simply mean that I respect them and their rights but I also want to raise my children to grow up being their authentic selfs and living their life.

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              “grow up being their authentic selfs”? so what age would you introduce them to homosexuality and gender theory? would you rather have them be thought that by their school or are you going to teach them that they can just choose their gender or sexuality?

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                The same age we introduce children to heterosexuality and gender theory. If the information taught is objectively truthful and backed up by scientific discovery then it makes no difference where it’s learned because it will be factual.

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                At what age is it OK to let your kid read a book with a straight couple? At that age is the same age I’d teach for other option to be fine. There’s nothing scary about homosexuality just as there isn’t for heterosexuality. If them learning about heterosexual relationships doesn’t hurt them, learning about homosexual relationships won’t hurt them either.

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            Nah, nobody’s got rights to treat others like shit for who they were born as.

            It ain’t right when Salafist muslims do it, it ain’t right when black africans get told to do it by american evangelical missionaries, and it ain’t right when you try to play cover for it by painting it as “just culture.”

            That behaviour is disgusting barbaric and undeserving of the respect afforded to true cultural differences like language and dress and (non harmful) traditions.

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        1 year ago

        Our culture” (mostly western European) does not care if men play women (or vice-versa) in a play. If anything, like other have mentioned, in condones it. Stop acting like what you believe is the arbiter of culture. What you believe is nothing and meaningless, and a minority in our society.

        Even if you were correct (which you absolutely are not), it wouldn’t matter because we don’t have to continue doing and believing the same things that were once believed. We can imagine and create a better world that let’s people be what they want and be happy. We don’t need you to agree to it, but it’d be better if you at least weren’t hostile to people trying to live their lives and not bothering you.

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          we don’t have to continue doing and believing the same things that were once believed. We can imagine and create a better world that let’s people be what they want and be happy. We don’t need you to agree to it, but it’d be better if you at least weren’t hostile to people trying to live their lives and not bothering you.

          Wise words.

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            So we should allow children to read books that are accepting of relationships at all, right? It’s either wrong to do or it isn’t. It shouldn’t matter what gender the people are in the relationships. Either you’re OK with some types of indoctrination or none.

            (I’m of the opinion it isn’t indoctrination to let people choose to read what they choose to read. It isn’t indoctrination to admit people exist.)

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        Ah yes, not hateful or afraid of LGBTQ people you just don’t want them to exist in public where you can see and talk about “exposure” like you’re talking about a disease. Can’t say I am fond of people talking about their own kids like chattel property where their parents decide every single interaction they have and shape their entire experience as though if they can just keep them “pure” of influence they will grow up to be good little carbon copies of their parents who will do exactly what they are told when they are adults. Seems like a good way to put a kid in therapy and for you to end up in a senior home to me.

        You want to teach your kid that the gays will burn, fine, the kids still got to learn how to be at least tolerant and share the space in society and learning to get along is kindergarten stuff. Training up little terrors who will flip the fuck out if they ever see two men holding hands while buying IKEA furniture is doing society at large a disservice. Also these are fucking high schoolers, do you really think you need to wrap them in cotton wool and give them safety sissors? I am pretty sure they would light you on fire for trying.

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        LGBT isn’t a choice and covering their eyes won’t change their sexual orientation.

        But, besides that point, how the fuck is it okay to insulate your kid from other cultures? That’s not healthy at all. Eating ramen wasn’t part of my family’s culture growing up, either, but I don’t go around trying to prevent children from learning about Japanese food.

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        You mean they do hate it but want to claim respectability points by gesturing to “muh kultor!”

        Queer folks are in every culture because they literally just happen everywhere. It ain’t up to some badnik lowdowns to decide it ain’t in their culture because it sure is when they’re kicking little johny on the street for not wanting to be called jessy anymore.