With the cabal of pedophiles ordering fascist paramilitaries to abduct five year olds off the streets and sending people to secret torture dungeons, while spending as much on the military as the next nine countries combined and explicitly saying that they can and will take whatever territory they feel like, it makes me think that maybe expanding US influence around the globe is a bad thing, and that having some countries willing to act as a counterbalance to that otherwise unstoppable force is a good thing, even if those countries are far from perfect.

In the past I’ve been criticized for “knee-jerk anti-Americanism” and that sort of thing. How much more fascist does the US has to get before, “Who could stop the US if it went full Hitler?” starts being a valid concern?

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    It’s always been okay to hate the American government. Just don’t simp for any of the other countries that are controlled by Oligarchs and Authoritarians.

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      I don’t “simp” any country and never have. But surely it’s better to have a balance of power between multiple flawed countries with some ability to keep each other in check, than to have one bad country that can act as a sole superpower and can do whatever it wants with impunity.

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        Eh, that Soviet flag and the .ml make me take your claim of not simping with a massive grain of salt.

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          “Simping” is a ridiculous, childish term to apply to geopolitics. This also doesn’t really have anything to do with my question.

          I think the USSR served as a useful counterbalance to the US, and that the world was safer when there was such a force keeping the US in check. I don’t “simp” for it or consider it perfect by any means.

          The question remains of whether you want to see any kind of force emerging that is capable of putting checks and balances on US aggression, or whether you want it to remain as the global hegemon.

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            And there we have it. I hit a sore spot. How I know this is because I made a fairly flat and innocuous statement.

            The USSR is a poor example of a counterbalance to the US as it engaged in the same behaviours as the US, just with the lie being communism rather than the democratic system touted by the US.

            So, say what you want, your premise has a faulty foundation.

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              Don’t be a presumptive piece of shit. Your attitude is exactly what is wrong with the entirety of humanity.

              Guilt by association is something morons and manipulators use. Why do you want to use the methods of morons?

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                Oh, yay! Someone else being pissy because I see flaws and am willing to state it.

                Tone police can fuck off.

                Also nice misinterpretation.

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              There we have what? A consistent stance that the US shouldn’t be able to dominate the entire world?

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                In the past I’ve been criticized for “knee-jerk anti-Americanism” and that sort of thing.

                Buds, don’t use the USSR as a counter point to the US as it’s a bad example and a Tankie talking point.

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                  But surely it’s better to have a balance of power between multiple flawed countries with some ability to keep each other in check, than to have one bad country that can act as a sole superpower and can do whatever it wants with impunity.

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    The US Federal Government, and government in general, is a huge set of institutions, governing everything from food production, bank regulation, environmental regulation, the military, disease control, education, and of course, immigration.

    Evil people in office make the government do bad things, but at the same time, the good stuff like the regulating the environment, pollution, basic food quality, national parks, freeway design and repair, social security, weather forecasts, etc. tends to be taken for granted.

    So when you say you hate the government, try to be more specific, and don’t forget the anonymous federal and other government employees working hard on the other stuff that helps your quality of life.

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    We’re only as strong as our alliances, which the current administration is destroying for really no good reason at all. If our allies abandon us, then we aren’t protected from attack. Not really.

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    I see three broad camps:

    1. Salvage the good bits of the US government and replace the rest with something better, while leaving its global role intact
    2. Reduce the global power of the US to the point that it’s just one element in a stable multipolar system, each of which can have its ups and downs without disrupting the rest
    3. Replace the US with China and/or Russia, because the US is uniquely bad and the seeming flaws of its rivals are just US propaganda.

    I suspect a lot of the criticism you face is from people unsure of whether you’re in camp 2 or 3.

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      The goals of 2 and 3 are completely aligned at this moment. So you can obviously dismiss anybody who supports 2 by accusing them of supporting 3.

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        If you are in camp 2, it is unwise to feed the trolls an excuse to dismiss you as 3… Unless you do believe in 3.

        Don’t do their work for them unless you want to look like a tankie clown.

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          Anyone who’s in camp 2 will be labelled as a “tankie” regardless of anything they say or don’t say.