Marc Benioff, the Salesforce CEO and co-founder, is facing growing criticism over a joke he made about US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) monitoring international employees during an event for the company.

Employees publicly expressed outrage about Benioff’s comments in his keynote address at an internal conference in Las Vegas on Tuesday, and leaders at Slack, which Salesforce owns, have said he should apologize.

Benioff reportedly asked international employees to stand, before joking that ICE agents were present and monitoring them, drawing boos from the crowd, several employees told media outlets including Wired and 404Media. A recording of his speech published on an internal Salesforce site was edited to cut his remarks about ICE, Business Insider reported.

The incident comes as hundreds of Salesforce workers reportedly plan to urge Benioff to denounce ICE and cancel future business with the agency, Wired and CNBC reported.

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    This little prick just wants to be in the media. He’s the CEO of a boring ass shit company and he knows it.

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      Having worked for Salesforce employees I really cringe when you call them the “working class”. Salesforce doesn’t employ cleaners, or people who prepare meals … Their employees are on average incredibly enriched by this man and his association with the administration.

      EDIT: Being that this comment is being somewhat brigaded with multiple people claiming that Salesforce employees are “the working poor”… I feel I should give more context:

      People who earn 200k/year are not the working poor. They are upper middle class or upper class. These things are not subjective, they are well defined.

      Salesforce does not employ the working poor. They contract out to subcontractors for all their cleaning and cooking and labor needs… Salesforce employees start at about $150k-$175k for the junior positions and it goes FAR upwards from there.

      People who landed a Salesforce job and hold on to it are not trapped in their labor class. They are culpable for everything their company does. And their CEO.

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        Just because they aren’t at the poverty line doesn’t mean that they aren’t working class. Unless they can live without working, they are the definition of working class.

        Don’t get distracted by those who hoard wealth.

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          if they still have to show up to work next week and they can’t take a day off whenever they want they are still working class.

          The doctor or lawyer with a sports car and a nice house isn’t your enemy, it’s the guy that is so rich he can absolve himself of humanity and community.

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            Even people who can take a day or five at any given time are working class, as long as they do need to work to sustain themselves. The problem is they by and large don’t realize it, and that won’t change, unless the economy gets so much worse that many people less fortunate than they will suffer a great deal (because they’re the petite bourgeoisie and they vote against their own class until it’s already fucked the rest of the working class).

            Class is different from but intrinsically linked with both money and diminishing micromanagement at work. The landlord who inherited a 2-5 homes, rents all except their own out, and only actually makes $35k annually in profit is not working class. The attorney who makes $300k and gets to choose what cases they take a year is. Although at that point, I suspect there’s a lot of lifestyle trimming that could probably allow them to retire basically at any point and become members of the haute proletariat, but the likelihood that they’d accept a <$50k a year lifestyle for the rest of their lives is basically null, so that’s probably moot.

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            Lemmy’s definition of working class has become “must keep working or will starve within a week…”

            if you have an emergency fund or any kind of retirement savings/investment, you are automatically a class traitor. The amount of purity tests you have to pass here to claim working class is crazy

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              Who’s gonna fund their armchair revolution if they alienate everyone who makes above minimum wage?

              But warn them against alienating potential allies and they’ll call you all sorts of names, resorting ro ad hominems and strawmen, because “wE dOn’T nEeD yOuR hElP” or something.

              And then they’ll call you a fascist if you present a nuanced take that doesn’t lump everyone into one of two camps: bolsheviks and fascists.

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                  i think half of them are from folk thinking you are calling them class traitors for having savings (because they, like me, were initially too undercaffeinated to parse it correctly) and the rest are from folk who parsed it correctly and are mad because their petit bourguignon jobs don’t match with their proleteriat feelings.

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          There are more than two classes.

          You’re defending Salesforce employees who are enriching the CEO and Trump, and they are working for ICE. These are not jobs they need at this company, They could literally go work for any company out there. This is not a burden placed in them by the class they belong to. Most of these people could take a year off any lose absolutely nothing but a few vacations.

          People who earn upwards of $200k/year do not deserve my forgiveness or my empathy for their blight, especially when they are willingly working for people like the CEO of Salesforce.

          Framing them as working class is absurd. Just because you have a job doesn’t mean you are working class.

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            You know what the difference is between a million dollars and a billion dollars?

            A billion dollars.

            Those who make $200k have more in common with people in poverty than people who are billionaires.

            I make good money but I am not under any illusion that a bad accident or a medical issue will wipe out my savings in a heartbeat. Just because I can afford to go on vacation doesn’t mean that I don’t understand what it means to be “working class”.

            I am working class and their ally. All you’re doing is intentionally creating a wedge between “well off” people and the poor instead of coalescing together to attack the actual capital class.

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              You don’t understand who is not your ally. The people enriching the oligarch class are also not our allies.

              For them it’s a choice, not a need. There is a very very large experience and knowledge gap between our perspectives and I’m not going to spend my time bridging backwards while you try to frame Salesforce managers as being trapped in their labor class.

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                Wait. Since independently owned company A with 50 employees in Podunk, Oklahoma sold to holdings company B, those 50 employees who didn’t get fired but also have no savings and literally no other jobs to go to because of “AI replacing employees” don’t need their jobs? Maybe those employees get a whopping 20-30 hours of week of clopenings at 8.00-15.00 per hour.

                Please.

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                The people enriching the oligarch class are also not our allies.

                Meaning everyone who’s ever bought anything from a corporation?

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                  No. The people who willingly serve them. You are being like this on purpose. Go back to reddit.

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          People who earn 200k/year are not the working poor. They are upper middle class or upper class. These things are not subjective, they are well defined.

          Salesforce does not employ the working poor. They contract out to subcontractors for all their cleaning and cooking needs… Salesforce employees start at about $150k-$175k for the junior positions.

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            people who earn 200k/yr still have to work to live. ~15k a month net is a lot but if you have kids, pets, a mortgage, medical bills, student loans, car, phone etc and you trying to eat too, you can’t suddenly say “phew! I’ve had enough work for the next 40 years, time to live on 4k a year - easy!”

            Would you level that criticism at a welder, at a longshoreman, at a truck driver? they can earn 6 fig salaries too

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              If those longshoremen were working directly for ICE, yeah I would not consider them my ally.

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              By definition they are not the working poor. This isn’t subjective and inflation didn’t erase the upper middle class yet. Besides it’s missing the point to claim that ICE agents are excused from wrongdoing because they’re the working poor so therefore can’t work for someone else. This is no different. They are not the working poor who cannot afford to switch jobs.

              They have a choice. They are not trapped in their labor class. They can work for other companies besides Salesforce…they can choose not to support ICE.

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            Correct. They are however working class. Your post said working class not working poor.

            Upper class and middle class are marketing terms that only create divisions between the working class. Anyone in the working class can very quickly become the working poor.

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              If you serve oligarchs instead of making slightly less I hope you get sick and die. Period. I don’t give a shit what class you belong to if you’re helping ICE for a living. You are the one choosing to miss the point of who is your ally and who is not.

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                You’re literally creating a class divide here that doesn’t need to exist. You are not anyone’s ally.

                You’re a reactionary fool that will become the person who you claim to hate the moment you’re given the chance.

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    Much like other billionaires, Benioff’s politics appear to have taken a marked turn in Trump’s second term. He for years was closely aligned with some liberal causes, including a 2018 measure in San Francisco to tax large corporations in the city to fund homeless services, and in an interview with the Guardian criticized billionaires for “hoarding” their wealth. Last fall Benioff told the New York Times he “fully supported” the president, and said Trump should send national guard troops to San Francisco, before apologizing and walking those comments back. His company, which has long had contracts with ICE, has sought to increase its business with the agency.

    Scratch a liberal…

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      mentioned couple times, just as another grifter looking for connections. not interesting enough for pedo island

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      Several years back. The best thing about Salesforce’s AI push is that it has distracted them from constantly push Slack on us.