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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 23 days ago

More Europeans see US as threat than China

www.politico.eu

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More Europeans see US as threat than China

www.politico.eu

☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 23 days ago
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Washington outranks Beijing as a threat in Spain, Italy, Belgium and Germany, according to POLITICO European Pulse survey.
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  • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Only because it is.

    China is where all the treats come from.

    US is where all the threats come from.

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    Wy do they see China as a threat? China has never been in the pacific theater.

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      western propaganda is very effective

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    • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      China is currently administered by Chinese people. Europeans find this unfamiliar and alarming.

    • XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      because they aren’t white

      us-foreign-policy

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      Because their suzerain has beef with China

    • TheWolfOfSouthEnd [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      China bad, USA good. This is what we’re told since birth. It’s also bullshit.

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        I mean that China has not done anything in their own ocean front let alone the Atlantic unlike Big Satan.

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        By “authoritarian”, you mean “it doesn’t have neoliberal parties destroying the welfare or fascist parties destroying civil rights”. As an EU citizen, I cannot even imagine how good it must feel not being under the constant threat of the destruction of the welfare state.

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          I’m sure Putin getting all the votes also means people are super happy about him. It’s not really a fair poll when dissent is punished. And as I said in my other comment, Tiananmen Square says what?

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            It’s not really a fair poll when dissent is punished.

            Please provide a source for this statement. I have never heard about chinese people being punished for answering a poll wrong.

            We have more reason to trust chinese sources than western ones, considering the long and proud history of lying on behalf of the regime every big western source has. However since you are mired in bigotry havard studies show the same satisfaction

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              Here’s a good one too that talks about possible skewed data and such: Support for government in China: is the data accurate?

              However, some limitations in that study inspired researchers to carry out a series of more robust list experiment studies. Using more advanced methods, Li, Shi, and Zhu (2018) found that trust in national leaders is 62%. Robinson and Tannenberg (2019) found that confidence in national government is 66%. Nicholson and Huang (2022) found 77% support for central government and 67% support for local government. Finally, Carter, Carter and Schick (2024) found that 65-70% of people support Xi Jinping, and about 65% agree the government works for the people and is responsive.

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                Yep, however from the article itself “List experiments have their own problems, however: researchers have found that because the questioning technique is more complicated, it introduces unintended reporting errors that may even outstrip errors from strategic misreporting. In other words, it may be that simpler direct questioning methods produce more accurate results.”

                It also goes into other methodologies based on this bias and if the bias even exists in the first place and at the end they conclude:

                In other words, people in China do not seem to self-censor based on fear. The authors conclude: “Across a variety of studies using different methodologies, a good deal of evidence suggests that the Chinese people are willing to answer politically sensitive questions in a truthful manner.”

                So, the questionaire results seem trustworthy still and the list experiment results might have a “wtf are they even asking me” bias (and still come out ahead of every other country).

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            It’s not really a fair poll when dissent is punished.

            Rachel Good and Alex Pretti have entered the chat

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              Liberals will never question why they have such stong emotional reactions to perceived injustices outside the empire and also be so emotionally numb to nightmarish atrocities in their own backyard.

              One fun saying ive read before but I sadly can’t attribute it directly (Xinjiang atrocity propaganda):

              White people hate Muslims. White people hate Chinese, but they seem to be in love with Muslim Chinese.

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            And what does Tienanmen Square say? Enough with the vagueposting, say what you mean, liberal.

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            say sike now lol

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    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      I’m just hoping the EU collapses before that can happen.

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        It’d speed run the total implosion of western power tho. If this ever became a serious consideration the US would make sure it never happened. They’d start with the annexation and occupation of Alberta, I bet.

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          I can’t see the US allowing this to happen either.

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    well yeah, which one is your military occupier?

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