I agree with the sentiment but the “it didn’t happen right away” argument would be true of either type of action.
Thankfully, we can look back at history for assistance. “Adventurism” or “the propaganda of the deed” have very often resulted in apathy within the masses and not in any revolutionary potential building.
So, you’re right. But things do take time to build movements that actually result in change. Thankfully we also have history to help direct us there as well.
The “Propaganda of the deed” has historical resulted in apathy just like yours. It’s why people cling to it. Enjoy it. But never actually go and do something to fight back. You sit back waiting for the next “deed” to make you feel good. Or maybe you are the small small fraction that go do the deed themselves.
Also, there is no rule that that says you can’t keep enjoying workers burn down warehouses. But criticizing actual militant workers actions that HAVE historically worked. The only reason you’d do that is either fear or apathy.
This isn’t something new. People have been trying to spark changes to society this way for centuries. There is literally mountains of literature written on the failures of the “propaganda of the deed”. You’re advocating for something that makes you feel good. Not that actually works.
We meet at many places now but you don’t show up to an Amazon warehouse armed as your first step. Not how that works.
Shit like that needs material support built. That will be highly dependent on your local area right now as there are no country wide movements.
But, if you’re looking to start doing something instead of nothing and you aren’t quite ready to burn a warehouse down then you can look for PSL or DSA in your area. You’ll at least be around people that are working for these things and likely be able to find local organizations from these relationships. Union resources, weapons training, etc.
“arm themselves?” Like a call for 2fa cosplaying? hahahahahhahah. Didnt literally 99.9999% of 2fa people piss themselves when it was time to stand up with their weapons to oppose actual tyranny in their neighborhoods? Thats historical fact now isnt it?
Guerilla tactics win over cosplaying within the american protest movement. Burn just a few wharehouses and the rich will take notice. Strut around with a long rifle on your back that you have never and will never fire is just a nuisance for the security guards (police and ice) to keep an eye on.
A symbol of heroism. The true heroes are those that don’t burn down the warehouse. They’re the ones that arm themselves and seize it.
We can all relate with getting fed up and doing this in a moment of rage and frustration. But directing that rage together is how we actually win.
Yeah, sure thing buddy.
If you seize property, the police will just un-seize it.
If you set fire to property, it stays set fire to.
Yup. Things like the Tesla dealerships vandalism were very effective. They actually led to musk being tamed somewhat.
I agree with the sentiment but the “it didn’t happen right away” argument would be true of either type of action.
Thankfully, we can look back at history for assistance. “Adventurism” or “the propaganda of the deed” have very often resulted in apathy within the masses and not in any revolutionary potential building.
So, you’re right. But things do take time to build movements that actually result in change. Thankfully we also have history to help direct us there as well.
The “Propaganda of the deed” has historical resulted in apathy just like yours. It’s why people cling to it. Enjoy it. But never actually go and do something to fight back. You sit back waiting for the next “deed” to make you feel good. Or maybe you are the small small fraction that go do the deed themselves.
Also, there is no rule that that says you can’t keep enjoying workers burn down warehouses. But criticizing actual militant workers actions that HAVE historically worked. The only reason you’d do that is either fear or apathy.
This isn’t something new. People have been trying to spark changes to society this way for centuries. There is literally mountains of literature written on the failures of the “propaganda of the deed”. You’re advocating for something that makes you feel good. Not that actually works.
Good point, lets learn from this and do better next time.
So in front of which Amazon wearhouse are we all meeting now?
We meet at many places now but you don’t show up to an Amazon warehouse armed as your first step. Not how that works.
Shit like that needs material support built. That will be highly dependent on your local area right now as there are no country wide movements.
But, if you’re looking to start doing something instead of nothing and you aren’t quite ready to burn a warehouse down then you can look for PSL or DSA in your area. You’ll at least be around people that are working for these things and likely be able to find local organizations from these relationships. Union resources, weapons training, etc.
“arm themselves?” Like a call for 2fa cosplaying? hahahahahhahah. Didnt literally 99.9999% of 2fa people piss themselves when it was time to stand up with their weapons to oppose actual tyranny in their neighborhoods? Thats historical fact now isnt it?
Guerilla tactics win over cosplaying within the american protest movement. Burn just a few wharehouses and the rich will take notice. Strut around with a long rifle on your back that you have never and will never fire is just a nuisance for the security guards (police and ice) to keep an eye on.