I’m glad you learned a lesson here. We won’t be removing your post so it can maybe serve an educational purpose to others in the future, too. Thank you for being willing to accept criticism.
It’s mostly having fun, but there is a line that gets crossed into the pathological when fans get angry at the author/creator when they do something that contradicts something in the fanon. And I don’t mean just being disappointed, I mean full on “how dare they this is an offense to me” anger.
Sometimes fanon gets confirmed later, or just adopted because it is actually a quite nice take on the story.
Like Vault Tec being the ones to drop the nukes, or the Xenomorphs being made intentionally as a weapon.
Sometimes the fanon is basically canon but there’s just not textual confirmation.
Like Jon Snow being the son of Lyanna Stark
But most of the time fanon either fulfills a need for the story to be better than it was, or it just refers to established conventions for fan fiction purposes.
They’re subject to reimagining and reinterpretation.
That becomes a problem when for example the Korra fandom try to whitewash the nazi Kuvira to be something likeable. Okay the show itself try to do that but come on you should not agree with the bullshit the characters are saying(the authors are saying). The fandom can write an alternative universe that Kuvira is not a nazi piece of shit but why? Why the fixation on the nazi character?
Because she was the only villain that was really humanised at all in the show, so people gravitate towards that. I think a better question would be “why did the writers of the show decide that the only villain who needed to be portrayed complexly and sympathetically was the Fascist?”
Awesome Hitler effect where western writers make their villain Hitler but also really cool and stoic (also always conventionally attractive) Her death camps are reduced to passing dialogue and we never get a follow up on them (also the ideology behind her death camps is so contrived and incomprehensible as to basically provoke fanon).
A lot of western action stories have a worrying amount of Awesome Hitlers.
I’m genuinely surprised no one’s scolded me for not reading all the theory that’s ever been written and said I would have understood the joke perfectly if I wasn’t such a lib. Either we’ve all moved beyond elitism and purity testing, or we’re all a bunch of libs.
Yes, fanon refers to widely accepted understandings of characters and stories among fans.
Normally you can use “delusions” instead of fanon
I’m glad you learned a lesson here. We won’t be removing your post so it can maybe serve an educational purpose to others in the future, too. Thank you for being willing to accept criticism.
The problem with the term delusion is that implies “mental illness” as a dichotomic alternative to “just having fun”.
It’s mostly having fun, but there is a line that gets crossed into the pathological when fans get angry at the author/creator when they do something that contradicts something in the fanon. And I don’t mean just being disappointed, I mean full on “how dare they this is an offense to me” anger.
I didn’t even think that, you’re right
I disagree. Spoilers for everything::
spoiler
Sometimes fanon gets confirmed later, or just adopted because it is actually a quite nice take on the story.
Like Vault Tec being the ones to drop the nukes, or the Xenomorphs being made intentionally as a weapon.
Sometimes the fanon is basically canon but there’s just not textual confirmation.
Like Jon Snow being the son of Lyanna Stark
But most of the time fanon either fulfills a need for the story to be better than it was, or it just refers to established conventions for fan fiction purposes.
A delusion
If we can spin subtext into a more lesbian story then what some corporate board of market researchers approved, you’re not gonna stop us.
Some of that is better described as fan theories.
It can do both
I like the term “Death of the Author”
death of the author is about reading the text by itself. fan-canon is about making a bunch of shit up outside the text
Don’t be a DEckhead. The stories aren’t real, the characters aren’t real. They’re subject to reimagining and reinterpretation.
Oh shit I’ve been searching for the OG post for like a year now but couldn’t remember enough details to find it lol
That was a good reading but
That becomes a problem when for example the Korra fandom try to whitewash the nazi Kuvira to be something likeable. Okay the show itself try to do that but come on you should not agree with the bullshit the characters are saying(the authors are saying). The fandom can write an alternative universe that Kuvira is not a nazi piece of shit but why? Why the fixation on the nazi character?
Because she was the only villain that was really humanised at all in the show, so people gravitate towards that. I think a better question would be “why did the writers of the show decide that the only villain who needed to be portrayed complexly and sympathetically was the Fascist?”
Awesome Hitler effect where western writers make their villain Hitler but also really cool and stoic (also always conventionally attractive) Her death camps are reduced to passing dialogue and we never get a follow up on them (also the ideology behind her death camps is so contrived and incomprehensible as to basically provoke fanon).
A lot of western action stories have a worrying amount of Awesome Hitlers.
Had no idea that was posted here, the original post is so hard to find with google being so shit these days.
I’m genuinely surprised no one’s scolded me for not reading all the theory that’s ever been written and said I would have understood the joke perfectly if I wasn’t such a lib. Either we’ve all moved beyond elitism and purity testing, or we’re all a bunch of libs.
the latter most likely