• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    The Soviet Union had no colonies. This was always projection on the part of colonial and neocolonial countries for the USSR’s unwavering support for national liberation struggles, which earned them incredible amounts of sanctions.

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      1 day ago

      Do you think the current colonies of the Russia somehow appeared out of thin air? All of the Russia’s current territory has been Soviet territory in the past. All of the Russia’s colonies were of course also Soviet colonies.

      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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        What are you referencing when you say current Russian colonies? Pretty much all Russian colonization happened in the 16th century in Siberia and central asia under imperial Russia. The only colonization other than that was in Alaska and in parts of northern California in the 18th century, while still under the imperial regime.

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          12 hours ago

          Precisely the colonies that were gradually colonized in the 16th to 20th century.

          Just like French and British colonies are still colonies even if they were colonized centuries ago, Russian colonies are still colonies even if they were colonized centuries ago.

          The eastern parts of the Russia only really ended up under Russian rule after the Transsiberian railway was built.

          • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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            Precisely the colonies that were gradually colonized in the 16th to 20th century.

            Those were colonized by Imperial Russia… You know the government that the Soviet union overthrew.

            Just like French and British colonies are still colonies even if they were colonized centuries ago, Russian colonies are still colonies even if they were colonized centuries ago.

            The difference being that the British and French governments were continuations of the same government that took those colonial holdings. Also the colonies taken in the 20th century now belong to the US.

            The eastern parts of the Russia only really ended up under Russian rule after the Transsiberian railway was built.

            The eastern parts of the Russia only really ended up under Russian rule after the Transsiberian railway was built.

            I mean that’s just factually incorrect. The Imperial Russian expansion east started in the late 15th century and had colonies at the pacific by the mid 16th century, and had nearly a million exiles alone heading east by the mid 17th century.

            The Trans-Siberian railway wasn’t completed until 1904, the same year of the Russo Japanese war where they had a battle over control of Manchuria with millions of combatants. Nothing you are claiming is historically correct in the slightest.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        1 day ago

        Modern Russia had no colonies to inherit, it has no colonies. The Soviet Union liberated the Tsar’s colonies and thus modern Russia had none to inherit.

        • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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          1 day ago

          They are sure trying to re colonize all the old soviet countries though. Give them credit for that at least!

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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            1 day ago

            Not really, there’s a major schism due to western plundering of the former Soviet countries and installation of compradors.

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              1 day ago

              Or, in reality, russia is trying to re colonialize these countries. Frame it how you will

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                1 day ago

                I think even if someone were to be generous and agreed with your view of current events, it would be considered annexation rather than colonization. It’s an important delineation as colonization requires a conquest in the aims of material extraction without benefit to the native populace.

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                  1 day ago

                  Just anex? But I was sure colonialism was more than just taking over territory based on all the othet times I’ve spoken to .ml lol

                  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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                    Colonialism is more than just taking over territory, it involves setting up colonial governments and running the economy based on strategic gain or resource extraction for the parent country.