Nooooo, you can’t train on OUR data! That’s illegal!!!1
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Seems like it’s up to Anthropic to teach it’s AI model not to pimp itself out.
Ai is already dog shit, there is a level of concern if we start getting ai incest and the absolute fucking retards shoving this shit everywhere goes from using unethical ai to unethical incest ai.
There’s no way this isn’t just going to make everything worse.
I have zero sympathy for anthropic but can we not make a shit situation worse and just be ok with that cause the first dude is Hitler and the second dude is mega Hitler.
Ok the flip side if this some how creates a more efficient and power conservative model that doesn’t fuck over consumers and the environment as hard.
PIRATE MORE ALIBABA YOU DA CHAMP
I welcome it getting worse. The worse it gets the faster it will collapse.
No difference. Distillation is a valid and useful way of generating data to improve or make new models. It’s still just example data to be trained on. Anthropic is doing the same with their own models, and inadvertently every other model through web scraping.
The legal difference is that this data is uncopyrightable. At most it’s a TOS breach, nothing major.
If every AI company steals the public data separately, it means massively increased costs for everyone who is getting their data stolen. If the AI companies “steal” from each other it’s much better for everyone else.
Claude is trained on stolen data (the whole Internet), so I can’t have any sympathy for Anthropic when someone steals from them.
Why the fuck would they do that if Anthropic is being kind enough to just give them that data (regardless of how it makes them be butthurt)?
Lol corporate thieves bitching about other corporate thieves is the funniest part of 2026
Okay, so Anthropic distills MY copywriter data and it’s fine.
Alibaba distills Anthropic non-copywritable and that demands retaliation at the nation state level.
Fuck off. The rules are abundantly clear.
Anthropic just knows it has political leverage, that’s it. Large parts of US infrastructure and business now rely on Claude models to even function the way they do with the staff they do, and you can leverage that dependence into political action and retaliation pretty easily in the name of “national security”.
They stole to monetize without paying in money or attribution what we stole to monetize without paying money or attribution!
Well, they did pay, just after the fact.
Well they didn’t pay me. But still used all my open source mit licensed code to train their model. And now I need to rent their compute back.
You chose to publish under that essentially says “do whatever, I dont care”. I can understand people who wrote GPL code being peeved, but writing stuff under MIT is pretty much designed to let companies take it and not give back.
Sorry also some projects are agpl or gpl indeed. I actually meant to say agpl. They most likely also stole that. Let’s be honest here.
For example my WineGUI project is agpl. Also I’m also fine if they trained on it. But then they should open source their models and data.
I mean sure, Anthropic are pricks, but “they did exactly what the license I put on my code said they could” is probably not the way to highlight that.
My bad. I actually meant agpl. And gpl. You’re right to point out the that mit is fine. Which is true. Mit can be used for whatever.
But my for example my WineGUI project is agpl. Pretty sure those Ai companies used all open source code regardless of the license.
I’m actually also fine if they trained on my agpl code. But then they should have open sourced their models and data. And their whole project.
That’s settlement, not a payment for the stolen goods. If I steal your shit, and to avoid going to jail I offer you some money, I am not paying for what I stole, I’m paying to avoid further consequences.
oh no, the data I stole is being stolen, whatever shall I do.
In other news, does anyone know a good source for crocodile tears? I ran out.
Sounds like Google complaining about scraping.
you can’t just call anything you don’t like “an attack”
I declare an attack!
You cannot just declare it. That doesn’t do anything…
Stop attacking me!
How about “terrorism” or “national security threat”?
Exactly!
Still, stop attacking me.
Is there a scenario in which they both lose? I’ll take that.
Alibabas Qwen were among the first open weights models that were actually useful and can be run on consumer hardware without too much difficulties.
If they continue with that, they will hurt the business model of the big AI companies significantly, accelerating the burst of the bubble.
New Qwen release incoming!
Q: if you steal a stolen thng, is it stealing?
I heard there was some new AI model that was so amazing for cyber security that they had to limit access to it. It’s just too bad Anthropic couldn’t use that.
The thief cries “catch the thief!”
Ai cloned the world. Please give me a break.
Claude’s still there, seems Alibaba’s attack wasn’t really all it’s cracked up to be.
Now the US gov’s attack seems to be working since Claude Fable 5 is still not there.
AI going after their few paying costumers
