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    Every monument should fall. The only reason to honor Bob Lee is because he’s responsible for more dead slavers than any three Union generals.

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    This is so beautiful! Can you imagine all the degenerates on the ceremony seeing this for the first time?

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      Even the racist assholes who worshipped him probably cringed or giggled when they first saw it.

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    “The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.”

    I considered switching ‘perfidious’ to a word most people have actually heard of, but I decided against it.

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    Literally just listened to one of my state representatives whine about how pulling down slaver statues is destroying art, well i guess we see why conservatives don’t get art, because they suck at it.

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    I heard/read a story somewhere once, where there was a statue somewhere of someone who’s better off not glorified. The statue was defaced regularly, and every time it was defaced, there’d be someone cleaning it up.

    Over time the statue went on to look worse for wear until one day, the authorities decided it was better to remove and replace the statue.

    It turned out the guy cleaning it up was always the same guy, who hated the subject of the statue with a passion, and alway used salt water to clean it, hoping to corrode & wear down the statue. Some people suspect he and the vandal were the same person.

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    I don’t know who this guy was and I’m not American, but I dissaprove of people vandalizing or destroying old statues. They should be removed from public view if they’re controversial, but they should be kept (if they have historical significance). Destruction of history, no matter how dark it was, is a crime in my eyes. Nobody would think about destroying concentration camps or the likes, even though they represent the most horrific part of our history. And besides, pretty much everyone born more than two centuries ago were assholes and bigots by today’s standard, it’s hard to judge when most of them probably did not know better. Again, not cautioning what this dude did, probably slavery and a great deal of killing I imagine.

    • Stoneykins [any]@mander.xyz
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      Most confederate statues are cheap crap bulk built all over the place sometime after the civil war as a sort of long term propaganda. They aren’t historical, they are reputation management.

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        You should add that the “sometime after” was also often sometime after WWII, so they are not very historical, look ugly and take space.

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        like the lenin statues that used to be all over ukraine and other post-soviet countries.

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          I actually don’t know anything about those. Were they put there while the soviet union still existed/built by the soviet union themselves, or were they put there later after by some fan of the soviet union? If the goal is to keep what is historical, regardless of political context, that would be the key distinction in my opinion.

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            soviet union (mass-produced and) placed them literally everywhere.
            there’s at least one lenin or stalin statue per major street, some countries are just starting removing them, but it’s a really long process due to sheer amount of them, regulations and stuff.
            the amount of these things is somewhat absurd

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        I’d argue most statues are some form of propaganda that likely don’t tell whole stories.

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        And it was installed in the late 90s. That’s not history: it’s a gaudy, racist lawn ornament.