I understand that lemmy is a great place to be in for discussing our experiences with Android phones, but l find the forums/communities great for discussion purposes. The signup is very simple, just with an email id. Whereas in lemmy, an instance can have several communities, a community based on discourse would be exclusive for that purpose.
Well, uh, here?
Unless you mean a BBS style forum, in which case XDA is the biggest.
Thanks for bringing that up. Well yes, kind of the same. But the basic difference would be that we would start off with discussions on our device, and then gradually discuss ways and means regarding how we can find out workable solutions if we had no GAFAM product.
But the basic difference would be that we would start off with discussions on our device, and then gradually discuss ways and means regarding how we can find out workable solutions if we had no GAFAM product.
To only leverage already built environments is no way to ensure healthy growth. So while in a hurry it could help, I’d advise and incentivize on building that on calmer times.
but l find the forums/communities great for discussion purposes
Other than XDA already mentioned by frongt, of which is pretty overarching already, there are plenty of public forums still floating around, and that you could also find a corner to discuss experiences with Android.
Forums such as from GBAtemp, Retropie, GOG, AtariAge, Fuwanovel, GameFAQS, etc. may have corners where these types of discussions are allowed, though I’d imagine usually on the general or off-topic sections since their purposes aren’t about Android specifically. You could also crosspost your question to !Forums@sh.itjust.works so you could get more suggestions of places to check.
And if you’d wish to stick to the fediverse but wants a PHP/board forums-oriented discussion structure, might I suggest NodeBB? It’s compatible with Lemmy’s community structure. Though better look for the ones with ActivityPub integration, as it was added on a later update and so some sites may still not have it enabled (or decided not to).
One that’d probably be closer, though I’m not too familiar with it for discussion-oriented threads, is the StackExchange network, in special for the context, https://android.stackexchange.com/
Why can’t you do that here?
Its hard for me to imagine any reason a traditional forum would be better than here.
Its hard for me to imagine any reason a traditional forum would be better than here.
Traditional forums don’t get random people who have no idea what they’re talking about stumbling in from some kind of algorithmic main page. Everyone who is participating has specifically signed up because they are interested in and knowledgeable about the subject. There’s also no karma/points system neutering discussions and rewarding low effort meme replies.
No algorithym here.
Also, karma doesn’t mean anything here.
No algorithym here.
You know there’s an “All” feed, right? Guess what determines the sort when you view it by Hot, Active, Scaled etc.?
OK, but you know those are extremely simple. Not any thing like a social medias algorithm.
But ok, I will concede that something popular could be at the top of a list.
I think what you’re saying is, that many people have a problem with algorithms where the developers have their “thumb on the scale” of what content is promoted or considered popular.
But it’s not hard to find people who are also critical of the purer type of algorithm, where upvotes are used to sort content, and things get popular for being popular, which Lemmy does just like Reddit before it.
Do people sort based on votes on Lemmy? With some instances not even using the voting system I suppose it could work the other way, where the client does that. I guess my instance does have top and controversial. I just never noticed, lol.
Also, karma doesn’t mean anything here.
Yes it does. You seem to be focusing purely on the account restrictions and hidden comments that mass downvotes incur on reddit. I’m talking much more broadly about how points systems influence behaviour. People subconsciously make decisions about whether to engage and how to engage based on how points have previously been awarded.
Traditional web forums do not automatically sort or rank comments based on some kind of points/voting system. It’s just a chronological feed, where every comment is displayed equally regardless of how agreeable or controversial they were. Points systems encourage groupthink and pile-ons without discussion, in a way that traditional forums never did.
No it doesnt. Karma would mean that those points add up somewhere, they do something other than in a single post.
Also, some instances don’t even show votes at all.
Go back and re-read my comment. Slowly. I am not talking about account karma.
Then you are not talking about Karma at all.
You are talking about what points look like during a discussion as votes (again an instance may not even display them). That isn’t karma at all, its just votes on a single page.
I hear that you are saying they might affect behavior during a single discussion.
The one thing very different I guess is forums do put things in order. In this type of forum you can comment in any part of the chain which is probably more interesting when comparing the two.
I still use traditional forums, hell I admin one. I certainly am not against them.
Yes, that’s what I have repeatedly said…
You are the one who focused in on the word karma. I only used it initially because it does exist elsewhere in the broader context of traditional forums vs the type of social media that has largely replaced them. If you had read anything else I had said then it would have been clear to you that at no point was I suggesting Lemmy had a karma system akin to reddit’s where users are punished for accruing downvotes.
