• Carl@anarchist.nexus
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    Yeah, the logistics behind the military were honestly staggering. There was an old joke about how the US military could get a fully operational (built, supplied, and staffed with trained crew) McDonalds anywhere in the planet within 48 hours. Except that it wasn’t really a joke. If the military wanted to, they probably could.

    The sheer scale behind the military’s logistics was so vast that people have trouble comprehending it. The same way people have trouble wrapping their mind around how big a billion of something is. Conceptually they may know how big it is, but actually putting it into practice is too large for any one person to truly comprehend. It’s the old “a million seconds is 11 days, a billion seconds is almost 32 years” problem, where the human brain simply isn’t designed to comprehend the sheer scale of something that large in a realistic way. Every comparison we make ends up with people devolving back into concepts in order to keep track of it in their mind.

    And we’ve seen all of it begin to unravel in only a few years, because the POTUS has surrounded himself by Yes Men instead of competent leaders. It’s the same way so many despots and dictators have historically been brought low… They surround themselves in Yes Men, and nobody wants to be the one to break the bad news. So the leader is kept blissfully ignorant, while everything crumbles around them. And then they’re shocked when they have angry mobs and/or a coup d’état.

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      And we’ve seen all of it begin to unravel in only a few years, because the POTUS has surrounded himself by Yes Men instead of competent leaders.

      POTUS can be impeached. The problem is either much bigger or it’s a ploy.

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          I don’t quite understand this conversation.

          Like, he already has been impeached, right? Wasn’t it twice, even?

          And it had the effect of splashing him with a little bit of water - oh boy he sure was a bit annoyed! Now that you two are discussing if he’s gonna be splashed with a little bit of water AGAIN, I have to ask - even if it’s trump, don’t y’all think that’s a bit cruel?

          I would put an /s, but I’m a bit lost if this even is sarcasm, but let me make clear it’s in jest and not mean spirited :D

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      It wasn’t a joke. During the initial invasion of Afghanistan, one of the first pieces of infrastructure was a self-contained Burger King truck. Airdropped in on a C-130.

      Even way back, one of the biggest things during the Pacific Theater in WWII was the fact that the US had three ships dedicated just to transporting frozen and refrigerated foods, so that the troops had fresh food. The ships colloquially became known as ice cream barges because they had the capability to make a ton of ice cream. The Americans in the Pacific were eating fresh meat and ice cream, while the Japanese soldiers were eating shitty rations. It was a major morale killer for the Imperial Japanese.

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        When did they airdrop one? Only picture I can find is one rolling off the back of a landed C-17. Airdropping stuff is far more fun.

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        Dammit, you dropped the two pieces of trivia I wanted to! hehe

        The only other one I can think of is also from WWII, where the Germans became aware that Americans were sending things like birthday cakes to their soldiers - that would arrive before spoiling, indicating how good the supply chain was, and no only for weapons, but enough room for personal items like that.

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          Yeah that was a huge part of it.

          What modern Republicans would call a “waste” was a major form of power projection.

          It was a signal. “We are so strong that we can send our troops shit like cake to keep them happy and fed. You’re eating slop and wearing torn boots. We’ve already won.”

          Not only did it boost American troops morale, but it crushed the enemy morale.

          An enemy that feels they’ve already lost because of the massive machine coming towards them is easier to beat than a motivated enemy that can smell the incompetence from a mile away.

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            You lot sound dissapointed that us troups have low moral and don’t have ice cream 🤔

            I never joined the military and I can acquire iced sweets anytime I want

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              Now we know the food was full of HFCS and slowly killing the people. All those regime changes that are necessary for the bases around the globe are likewise a hidden dept.

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                High-fructose corn syrup is simply a simple sugar made from corn that increases the fructose content over the glucose content to mimic the sweetness level of cane sugar.

                While food in the US suffers from having too much added sugar, the “HFCS” thing was a stupid misinformation campaign.

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      I’m not trying to be overly pedantic but we deploy Burger Kings from. AC-130s. Not Mc trash

      (We actually do use C-17 Globemaster III cargo planes to deliver containerized burger kings though)

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      It’s all been propaganda lies. The whole time. The US military has lost every single engagement since world war 2. Every single one.

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        Arguably won the first Iraq war, the one where there were clear goals that were achieved, and did not turn into a prolonged quagmire.

        I suppose you could argue that it was just a setup for the second Iraq war, but that setup was also a bunch of lies.