As it stands today, unmanned vehicles (entirely operated by AI with no human intervention) still has shortcomings from accidents or collisions. Also, how would society react to AI being the driver? If there’s no steering wheel on an entirely AI operated car: how can you override its protocols when it becomes rogue? There are “self driving” cars, but how many use that as their main mode of transportation than driving a car?
The technology for it exists, but remains rather niche since there’s still more cars driven by people than cars operated by AI. Do YOU want to replace your own car with an AI operated one or rather keep one meant to be used by humans? As of now, it’s rather rare unless you happened to spot one whilst on the road. Most car dealerships only sell “normal” cars intended for humans, even Teslas still require a human driver.
Until cars can talk to each other and all are self driving, I prefer to drive. When they know to cooperate and not crash, self driving cars will be better drivers than people I think.
But mostly I take the electric bike. Like, driving a car is lazy enough, I don’t need the car to drive me.
Trains
Bruh, I don’t even like being a passenger with a human driver. I need to drive myself or I walk.
I don’t even like driving myself. walk, bike, transit all the way.
I like to drive. I like being in control of my car and, although I don’t really care about “owning” it, I don’t like the level of connectivity “Driverless” cars have. I’d never want one.
That said, I hate other drivers. Staring at their phones, not signaling, speeding, generally driving like a jackass. If giving up driving meant that no one else was driving either? Maybe. I just might.
I’d much prefer trains and buses, with reasonable cycling infrastructure nearby (to include lockable bike garages).
A long drive gives me time to think without the distraction I get when I don’t have to keep my eyes on the road. I’d just grab my phone in a FSD vehicle and waste my time door scrolling as usual.
I’m a “car guy”, I’ll give up driving when they put me in the ground. I don’t trust an AI to make snap decisions, I don’t trust it to prioritize human life over property damage, and most importantly I like to drive.
I like being able to intervene (especially for parking and minor repositioning and stuff), but I have to say FSD on the newer models of Tesla with lidar is pretty good: it is actually less convenient to actually drive than to let it drive you. Of course that’s both because the self driving is very decent AND because by removing the gear stalks it’s sort of less convenient to drive manually IMO.
You still have to be more or less engaged which is how it should be, but it doesn’t get tired or distracted and drift in lanes, it doesn’t look out the window and forget to brake or brake too hard, and it effectively raises the quality bottom line.
Now, of course, just like everyone else, I’m an above average driver and also NN driven vehicles aren’t PERFECT so why the hell would you let them drive anyway?
I all seriousness I like the option to offload to a more or less functional autopilot, but I wouldn’t be comfortable in a car with no controls or overrides at all at this point.
I’ve been driving for a few decades now and I’ve seen plenty of edge cases during that time where driverless cars likely wouldn’t do very well. A few recent examples:
- A car on fire in the middle of an intersection. Cars drove around it on the red light to make way for approaching fire trucks.
- I stopped at a red light at a construction zone and was watching for the light to turn green, and didn’t see a police officer standing next to the construction crew trying to wave me through. I finally noticed him when he yelled at me.
- There’s a traffic light near me where two roads intersect at about a 30 degree angle. You regularly see both the red & green signals for both roads when stopped. I’ve seen Teslas that misread red signals as green be cause of this.
I want the self-driving car because I would be a really bad driver.
AI enables me to do stuff at a quality level I couldn’t reach myself even if training the skill would be fun. And for driving that means I could get more freedom of movement without being able to drive.
AI is also about accessibility.I saw a dude with no arms drive a car.
I got all the parts. My reaction time is just dangerously bad.
That’s really sad. You should believe in yourself more.
Actually, I’m good if someone that’s pretty sure they’d be a bad driver doesn’t drive. We could do with more of that instead of the willful stupidity I witness daily on the road.
I’ve never been in anything self-driving, and I’m not sure the tech is fully there. I do expect a future where various vehicles and such are all communicating with each other and able to move more efficiently, but I still think we should reduce the number of single-occupancy boxes on the road.
I’d rather take public transit as my first choice in any case.
I have no car and will not get one. Those things are horrible for the environment and humanity. Driver or not. Cars sucks. Fuck cars.
EDIT: If I have to choose those around me, I want them driven by humans. A human will learn (some) when you yell at them that they are in a bike lane. I trust humans much more than I trust, say, a Tesla, coming from behind while I’m cycling.
A car nearly ran onto me recently while I was stationary at a traffic light. I suspect the driver was battling against his “auto-pilot” system as the car kept trying to drive on me in the bike lane, and the driver kept trying to correct it. It seemed like the computer thought the bike path was a car lane. Fuck the cyclists in it.
Plus, we have proper winters where I live and I’d like to see them self-driving during snowfall and snow storms.
EDIT2: A car is a multi ton vehicle that can easily kill other people. I want humans to have responsibility over this. A death caused by a car can’t be easily dismissed, just because some kid or a deer didn’t follow what the programming intended them to do. There should be less individual cars and more buses, trains, trams, driven by responsible people, professionals, that are accountable. The only sort of acceptable automation/self-driving are trains if they have a dedicated right of way.
less of both; more mass transit
driverless train/bus or human piloted?
Driverless, which mass transit is actually a better fit for our technology anyways, especially at its current level. However, we as a species seem to be very intent on doing the wrong thing at every point possible.
I don’t oppose automation of many of the piloting tasks, but I’d say it’s great to have a human there, too.
That’s understandable, and it really depends on the environment. A street car would benefit from a human driver a lot more than a subway or peoplemover would (which is why so many are automated already)
Which are vehicles…
How did you fail at figuring that out?
is elevator a driverless vehicle 🤔
Yes, but they aren’t all driverless and they are better for the environment.
And the ones that are driverless are way safer than cars.
I’m a good driver, and AI is fucking stupid.
The only way you could possibly convince me to even get into a self driving car would be if my only other option was to get into a self flying helicopter.
Also, just to nitpick, the self driving car can’t “go rogue”, that would imply that it has consciousness, sentience, an understanding of what it’s actually doing, judgement, etc. a bunch of shit it doesn’t have. Self driving cars can and do “malfunction” frequently, but they can’t “go rogue”.
Don’t let the techno fascists’ constant anthropomorphic descriptions of their fuckware chat bots confuse you.
Mainly, that point is about the software a modern electronic car driven by a human is reliant on can get hacked by a hacker (as in them taking full control virtually but in reality they’re controlling someone’s vehicle).
Gotcha, well that’s a different issue (one I believe expands beyond self-driving cars to all new cars that are way more computer integrated than they should be).
Getting hacked is a good reason to be skeptical tho, it’s probably the slickest way to kill someone and make it seem like an accident.
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Considering the driverless car doesn’t yet exist, I’ll go with human operated.
I think automatic transmissions were a mistake. There’d be a lot less shit drivers if you had to pass the driving test with a manual.
I passed the driving test with a manual. You do not want me on the road.
Same. I’m a menace to society when behind the wheel.
But if I ever went to US (god forbid) I can pretend I’m all cool and be like ‘I can drive stick’. Which we all know means ‘I’m good at sex’.
You sure about that?
i recommend visiting the balkans, your belief may get challenged
All manuals, no drivers?









