I pray to god that they put people in power whose #1 priority is addressing the cost of living crisis. If they keep pushing idiots who are more concerned with identity politics than the well-being of the American people, this powder keg is going to explode.
There can only be so many young men who are unable to find a job and unable to afford a house before you end up with a civil war. Trump completely ignored our economic problems. If the next administration does the same the only outlet will be violence.
I kind of agree with this but aren’t there bigger fish to fry before they start eating their own?
Jeffries and Schumer are employed by billionaires and Israel to make sure nothing that could harm billionaires or Israel will get a vote. Getting rid of the corrupt is the first step. The progressives are not going to get anything through, while the people in control are employed specifically to keep progressive influence away.
Fish they have both already vowed to leave raw.
This must be so confusing to anyone who doesn’t keep up with US politics
Non-American here. I don’t think it will be successful… Almost all your politicians are bought and owned by Israel and paid for with your own tax dollars that your politicians send to Israel.
Yeah you’re better off but Israel runs your lives through bribes.
I truly believe the Millennials and Gen Z will be the first generation of Americans to tell Israel that they can’t take all your money to murder women and children for no reason.
I think you’ve done an amazing job and I wish you well.
I am in Australia and our loudest, most evil politician is a horrible woman I’ve hated since I was a kid in the 90s and she (and her billionaire benefactor) wants Israel to have a place in Australia.
Free Palestine, Free it from the evil of a terrorist state!
I think that what’s happened in America at the midterms can be another motivator for us to vote against ON and their ilk in the VIC election, similar to what happened in the federal one. I’m from Victoria, and the amount of attention her vapid party is getting isn’t reflecting the word on the street. I’m hopeful.
I’ve hated Pauline Hanson since I was a kid in the 90s and she was screaming about the Chinese.
I don’t think she has as much support as the media pretends she does but the media are the reason she’s suddenly a thing again.
She was supposed to fuck off to the UK to get away from the Chinese. I was devastated when I learned she had come back
Now she’s just Gina Rineharts mouth piece and she only exists because Gina Rinehart wants to take all our money and prop herself up the way Trump, Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg have done for the last two years.
The only upside is that Pauline is a woman and dumbass bogans don’t respect women.
I’m still off the opinion that every problem we’re all going through is because that piece of shit Peter Dutton wanted to rule Australia and he broke the system because he’s such an unlikable cunt…
Don’t get me wrong y’all, I love Bernie, but I think he’s just too old. We need to transition to the newer generation.
I thought “he looks like he’s about to die” 15 years ago. As far as I can tell, he hasn’t changed, so I can’t in good conscience look at Donald Trump and the McConnell meat puppet and tell Bernie he’s not good enough.
Age is age, I’d rather an authentic person over a younger actor
I agree on the authenticity part. I don’t think it should just be someone younger just because they are younger. They should also be progressive, authentic, and willing to put in the work. But I do think it’s important to engage younger voters as well. Also in terms of long term strategy and collaboration, how much of a set back could Bernie passing away do?
Help a non-American out. What’s the beef with Jeffries?
Beyond what others have said, I’ve heard him interview and I don’t think he can think on his feet too well.
He seemed to have a library of scripted responses and select the closest, but still mismatched response and sounded like he was reading a script. When the interviewer interjected to attempt to clarify what she assumed was a misunderstood question because the response was off, he just rewound a few words in his speech and continued, saying verbatim the last few words again before the interjection on the way to finish the response (which did kind of have an answer in the responses closing section, but the rest of the answer was useless and off topic).
On one question where he didn’t seem to have a good enough prepared response and he clearly had to wing it, it was pretty bad.
He’s held secret meetings with Jared Kushner, trumps son in law(unelected official that somehow has his paws all over trump’s government).
He’s an AIPAC stooge who has quoted the racist George Wallace in support of Israel
Read the article?
AOC or Ro Khana. Bernie in the Senate
Somehow I don’t see an independent being elected by the Democrat electees
Enough of the social cultural emphasis. Our economy and environment needs the attention. We don’t need more controversial people in charge.
Find someone middle of the road. Same goes for the other side. We have two sides of politics and we need to find common ground to find the path to affordability.
I get your point, and yeah common ground and lowering the crazy cost of living are important. I think maybe you’re being downvoted because the Overton window has shifted so far to the right that these days, middle of the road is too far right for many people to be able to support.
I remember when Clinton got elected in 1992, and it felt like a breath of fresh air after a dozen years of Reaganism. His Centrist campaign protected him from cries of “bleeding heart liberals” and felt like a safe way to move the country slightly left after Ross Perot split the conservative vote.
“It’s the economy, stupid” was the catch phrase that cemented so many economic conservative policies in place while providing enough of a bare minimum safety net that people stopped pushing for real change. In the meantime Newt Gingrich pushed the party harder to the right and really helped develop the attack-at-all-costs demonization that has gotten us into partisan hell these days.
Finding someone middle of the road in modern times gave us Biden, who made some real changes that proved fleeting and easy for MAGA to sweep away after Trump turned real anger at the stagnant state of affairs into a second victory.
Maybe we need someone controversial that is able to push real and substantial changes to convince people that their lives are getting better instead of slowly slipping into neofeudalism. Someone middle of the road is likely to continue to preserve the status quo that is suffocating the lower classes, which will lead to another authoritarian populist fascist down the line.
Find someone middle of the road.
Bro wants us to go halfway between doing something for the people and doing nothing. Or halfway between helping people and fascism if I’m not reading that charitably (“2 sides of politics.” Cause reality famously only has black and white issues.)
Like c’mon. Social and cultural issues like what? Money out of politics? Healthcare? Education? Public investment? Holding billionaires and the criminal administration accountable? Because that’s what we voted for. And all of those things make things more affordable. ESPECIALLY the accountability part. They’re the whole reason nothing is affordable. The working class needs protections against capitalist bullshit.
Middle of the road rn is S-J
You’re not wrong but they are examples of untrustworthy and corrupt politicians.
Don’t get me wrong, I love AOC and Bernie. We still need 60 votes to get bills passed so we need the R votes. I just want the focus on economy and our land. If they start emphasizing identity politics again we are doomed to have the pendulum swing the other way come 2028.
You do realize having leadership that “works across the aisle” is exactly why we had a focus on identity politics right? It’s was platitudes instead of policy, it was effective at sowing division so that democrats didn’t need to do anything and still take the same money from billionaires and PACs that republicans do. Jeffries and Schumer both take AIPAC, oil, and healthcare insurance lobbying money. They have no incentive to hold anyone to account and make things better for the people. If they did, they’d lose their funding.
You can’t work across the aisle with fascist capitalists. That’s how you get identity politics aimed at stalling and dividing people rather than delivering for them. It’s effective at taking the steam out of real, people first movements.
We have more in common than we don’t. Whether MAGA likes it or not, we’re going to give them healthcare, education, job protection, paid time off by law, and more.
Add my call to the pile. These two have no business wimping out in the battle to remove the tick named trump from America.
I was fully ready to be a doomer about the dems being feckless before all the results came in, then thing folks are missing is that what just occurred happened in the face of a billionaire spending half a billion dollars trying to buy an election and it didn’t come close to working.
I’m not saying it’s all over but the shouting but that’s a dramatic shift and actually undercuts the power of massive campaign donations. Politicians will now have to consider that when both designing their campaigns and accepting donations.
What just happened proves that spending the most money doesn’t win elections anymore at least not like it once did. Missi-fucking-ssippi has a black democratic senator in the face of all the spending done by the wealthy and big business. That’s a paradigm shift
Hard to imagine the dem establishment letting this happen but it’s nice to read news like this for a change. Progress ebbs and flows and the last few days the conversations seem so much more healthy for us all.
When Dems are in power, we have the luxury of pushing back against the establishment wing of the party. When the GOP is in power, we need to focus our energy of getting them out, even if that means working with less-than-ideal Dems until we can shift focus back to our internal disagreements.
This is why it isn’t helpful to be defeatist about both-sidesism during general elections. We all know the Democratic Party isn’t perfect. But little by little, we can shift the overton window to the left.
That’s all I have to say about it. Obviously that part is behind us for now. Looking ahead, it’ll finally be time to roll our sleeves up and get to work on the issues that matter.
“You guys better do what we say or we’ll vote for you again.” is a heck of a threat there little buddy. How do you expect to actually ‘push back’ against the establishment wing of the party?
Take your unhelpful intentional misinterpretations and propaganda somewhere else there, little buddy.
Answer the question. The DNC has and will again simply stop people from running in the democratic primaries. There is no law to stop them from just refusing entry to the party or revoking the party affiliation.
So primaries do not work for this. As history shows. So how, exactly, are you going to threaten someone if the party says they’re the only blue candidate?
What if the DNC just stops having primaries? There’s no law that says they have to have primaries, or have to have public primaries. It’s all convention.
Abdul El-Sayed won his primary then became Senator. Primaries work, focus your energy on getting people to vote in them. DNC isn’t getting rid of primaries, that’s a completely baseless claim.
Yes, a completely baseless claim from the party that didn’t have a presidential primary.
What are you talking about? The Democratic party had a presidential primary in 2024. Biden won them.
There’s lots of things to complain about the Democratic party, you don’t need to make up things.
It’s a fair point. We don’t have much leverage in a two party system. Letters to reps aren’t going to cut it, protesting against the “good” guys just as hard as we did against the fascists is basically the only option at this point.
Primaries. Vote for who the party doesn’t want. It’s actually really simple.
Voting in primaries is for voting with your feelings. Voting in the generals is for voting with your head. Basically vote in primaries if you don’t like how the dems did and vote blue no matter who in the generals.
I’m saying that we need to properly pressure them instead of expecting them to save us willingly. Waiting for the next round of primaries isn’t enough, they simply won’t make the needed choices if they don’t have to.
Well that’s entirely the point then, isn’t it? Tell them that if they don’t do their job properly, then they’ll be fired. I don’t get why that’s such a crazy hard to understand concept, but whatever makes it so hard to understand is probably what got people like Trump into office in the first place
We’re doing the work right now. Climb onboard or get out of the way. We have a long way to go without dragging any deadweight behind us
No, it’s not a fair point. You seem to either not fully understand what voting is or how elections work. The ‘leverage’ is that if they don’t do what we want them to do, they lose their jobs. I wish there were more severe consequences to abandoning the voters, but we don’t have those yet and the only way to get there is to vote
…You can’t do that if you ‘vote blue no matter who.’
Do you address people as “little buddy” in real life? Do you find it motivates them to consider your views with an open mind?
Open mind? That’s a myth that liberals tell themselves to feel better about their locked down conclusions they’ll fit the facts around.
You still didn’t answer. The question. How do we pressure them?
I’m keeping a record of everything my elected officials do right, and everything that they do wrong. And every time I call them, I tell them that we’re keeping track of whether they’re listening to their constituents, we will organize accordingly when they’re up for re-election.
It sounds like an empty threat, but for those of us who actually care, we’re making shit happen.
In my district, we just got rid of an establishment dem representative, and got our first progressive representative in decades.
We can, and are, moving the needle left.
And when the DNC just stops allowing people to run as democrats if they don’t accept AIPAC? The DNC has pulled funding from candidates before for progressive ideology.
Then we run as our own party. But until that point, the way to most effectively move the needle to the left is to shift an already-existing dominant party to the left.
I hope we eventually overthrow the two party system entirely, that’s the dream.
You’re being down voted by people that cheerfully vote for politicians they know don’t represent them. To be fair, they’re still going through waves of ecstasy over voting in “bad” over “worse,” and that really is probably pretty good harm reduction, if Schumer and Jeffries don’t just give Trump everything he wants in the name of “bipartisanship” and an alignment of donors.
What a takeaway to get out of all this. I’m sure you’re being totally-not-disingenuous, so I’ll treat it with the utmost gravity it deserves.
Shifts weight onto one ass cheek and let’s out a great big fart.
God, that felt good.
Feel free to tell me an alternative solution.
Booo bad faith argument booooo
If they do than Americans need to take the gloves off, dox their asses and protest at every place they seek rest/peace until they resign.
Tbh, I’d obviously rather they were gone, but I think we’d survive them being in leadership for the next two years. The Dems aren’t likely to get much legislation through with Trump in the Whitehouse anyway, and they should be focused on Epstein & corruption investigations, getting us out of Iran, and inflation relief. In 2 years, Schumer will 100% lose his seat, Jeffries likely the same, and we can push even more DSA candidates into office and also take the white house back. That’s when the Dems will really have a mandate and things like medicare for all, a wealth tax, housing and infrastructure investments, etc are all on the table. At that point, it is non-negotiable that both of them are out of leadership and ideally congress. I wonder if the liberal “centrist” Dems would compromise on Schiff or Raskin for speaker.
It’s hard to imagine in normal condition but if we put pressure on them, contact our senators and representative we might be able to achieve that. I already contacted mine, please contact yours.
This is so Democrats don’t vote for them to lead the party. They are not fit for current landscape and are not what people want. Even ignoring their “centrist” positions, they aren’t even skilled for those positions. They showed us this past 2 years. I forgot the name but I think he was assistant to Jeffries, he was so much better at speaking.
Edit: looking up, maybe it was Joe Neguse
Edit2: yeah that was him: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/84taa_D99sQ so much better speaker than Jeffries
They’ve shown it their entire political careers, afaict.
Media has a vested interest in sowing division on the left. I don’t think they’ve decided to be journalists all of a sudden. Still, this gets the word out and we can use that.
I don’t think any of the boomer networks or major newspapers are running these stories. Just the smaller pandering outlets that are over represented on Lemmy and similar online spaces.
I slam that neither of them should be the leaders, and need a pair like Sanders and AOC, try that this time instead of these weaksauce guys.
Aww, but who will soak the rich and throw the working class under the bus?
Whoever replaces them, if they even bother with the theatre.
After seeing them frame going after their supposed political enemies for the illegal bad shit they’ve done as childish and unnecessary so soon after they were voted in I wouldn’t be shocked if they simply didn’t even address this.
They need to be removed any way they possibly can.
They’re compromised AIPAC dems.
Dems need to understand if they cause a red wave next election they will ALL be on the chopping block. Hiding from flock cameras and the American gestapo
I signed the petition then sent emails AND called both my senators stating AIPAC as primary concern.
I praised Merkley for not being in their pocket and gave shit to Wyden for being a tool of Apartheid encouraging both to seek better leadership.
Everyone in leadership is compromised by AIPAC, Amazon, Meta, Tesla, and so on.
- Israel was formed by USA and is doing its job well (that job being dominate the Middle East) so that’s a no-brainer. It’s a symbiotic relationship, they’re like our 51st state. D or R… are not really “compromised” in my opinion, but Israel has a lot of leverage with US foreign policy, more than any other nation.
- Corporations are in firm and undeniable control of all US leadership, as is to be expected when “corporations are people” and “dollars are free speech”. There’s no other possible result.
To change either relationship would require fundamental reconstruction of our “donor” funded elections and reversal of 70 years of US foreign policy. As long as we (“we” being the USA) want to dominate the middle east, Israel will remain maximally influential.
You can replace Schumer and Jeffries, but their replacements will also be pro-Israel and pro-billionaire.
Everyone in leadership is an compromised by AIPAC, Amazon, Meta, Tesla, and so on.
Everyone currently in leadership is compromised. But we just voted in new blood who isn’t, and there are also more established congresspeople who aren’t compromised by corporations or AIPAC/Zionist influence.
You can replace Schumer and Jeffries, but their replacements will also be pro-Israel and pro-billionaire.
This is speculation and it is unhelpful. Right now, we have a window of time to pressure our congresspeople to replace Schumer and Jeffries with people who have proven themselves to fight against billionaires and Zionists. Is it an uphill fight? Yeah, but the outcome has not been decided yet, let’s not accept defeat without trying.
Guillotines it is, then.
May as well do nothing! Who’s with me!?!
I’m not certain they wouldn’t like that :(
Bernie and AOC as their respective chamber leaders should be a non-negotiable
AOC is the only right answer here. She’s the only one of the lot with a set of balls.
Lots of amazing candidates got elected this week with massive balls
Yeah, but you probably want someone experienced.
