Due to a power issue, it looks like the lander may now no longer have sufficient fuel to make a controlled landing on the moon. This was the lander that was set to carry human remains to the moon despite objections from the Navajo nation. Hopefully, this discourages any future attempts at such a stunt, since instead of a permanent mausoleum your ashes may instead be stranded in orbit or scattered amongst the moon dust if the thing crashes.

  • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
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    You conflate the two like a weasel

    dehumanising language is cringe

    the difference is also irelevant when the argument is that “the moon belongs to everyone”

    There is no utility in allowing rich creeps to dump their corpses on the moon

    i dont care, it does not infringe on anyone elses rights to moon

    in fact it just interferes with scientific endeavors

    im sure scientists will be devastated when they find out they can only get untouched samples of the moon from the other 14 and a half million square miles of moon in the future

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      the difference is also irelevant when the argument is that “the moon belongs to everyone”

      Only if your starting assumption is that commons must be privatized and looted, which is a capitalist assumption but one that doesn’t necessarily make any sense. It’s just something you are asserting. Commodification by private entities should not be allowed on public land, think of it like a protected national park. You don’t just get to mine and make theme parks on it because it’s “public”. Likewise, rich fucks don’t just get to treat it as their playground. If they have enough money to waste on polluting and wasting resources then their money should be taxed away from them and put to better uses

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        Only if your starting assumption is that commons must be privatized and looted

        something about conflating ‘tossing human dust there’ with ‘privatizing and looting’

        It’s just something you are asserting

        i never asserted anything be privatized or looted, i asserted that tossing human dust on it doesnt matter

        think of it like a protected national park

        great example, since spreading ashes on a national park is in fact legal, generally

        You don’t just get to mine and make theme parks on it because it’s “public”

        something about conflating ‘tossing human dust there’ with ‘mine and make themeparks’

        Likewise, rich fucks don’t just get to treat it as their playground

        insofar as it does not infringe on the moon belonging to everyone else, yes they do

        If they have enough money to waste on polluting and wasting resources then their money should be taxed away from them and put to better uses

        no argument here

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          no argument here

          Then why are you defending this absurd project? You aren’t even doing liberal ideology coherently if you (correctly) say that their money should probably just be taken from them if this is what they are spending it on. So what, you acknowledge that this is a socially worthless endeavor such that it would be more pro-social to seize a portion of their assets, and in fact that them trying to do this should be considered a good pretext for such a seizure, and yet simultaneously that the endeavor should but considered sacrosanct?

          I am begging you to read any [leftist] critiques of liberal political theory. Literally any. This contains an offhand example that is nonetheless very solid.

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            Then why are you defending this absurd project?

            i think that the rich shouldnt have the sort of money to pull this kind of shit, and i think that ‘[group] think its bad to put bodies on the moon’ and that ‘the moon belongs to everyone (but not rich people)’ is shitty reasoning

            You aren’t even doing liberal ideology coherently if you (correctly) say that their money should probably just be taken from them if this is what they are spending it on

            i dont care about liberal ideology

            So what, you acknowledge that this is a socially worthless endeavor such that it would be more pro-social to seize a portion of their assets, and in fact that them trying to do this should be considered a good pretext for such a seizure, and yet simultaneously that the endeavor should but considered sacrosanct?

            i think that the rich shouldnt have the sort of money to pull this kind of shit, and i think that ‘[group] think its bad to put bodies on the moon’ and that ‘the moon belongs to everyone (but not rich people)’ is shitty reasoning

            I am begging you to read any [leftist] critiques of liberal political theory. Literally any. This contains an offhand example that is nonetheless very solid.

            i dont care about liberal ideology

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              ‘the moon belongs to everyone (but not rich people)’ is shitty reasoning

              it’s called compensating for inequality of opportunity dumbass

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              and i think that ‘[group] think its bad to put bodies on the moon’ […] is shitty reasoning

              it’s called compensating for inequality of political power dumbass. We haven’t been listening to “[group]” for literally centuries. We have to at least make an attempt to catch up before treating them the same as all the people we already listened to. If it was some random christian denomination you might have a point, but these are people we’ve been killing en masse for fucking ages. The least we can do is not LITERALLY throw shit at the things important to them.

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      dehumanising language is cringe

      It’s called an idiom, concern troll. Sorry, is “troll” too dehumanizing?

      i dont care, it does not infringe on anyone elses rights to moon

      Actually, giving rich pricks free rein while the rest of us can only watch does indeed infringe on our “rights” to the moon. These things can only be understood collectively, your atomized account is basically just a sophistical way of saying “first come, first served”