How disappointed we will all be when all the boomers are dead and it doesn’t solve any of our problems.
We’ll just have to see, won’t we?
Plus, it’s not like the climate will just snap back into place when the boomers are finally too old for their skeleton talons to cling to power. That shit is going to take generations of sacrifice to roll back, if it doesn’t topple civilization first.
The whole ethos of the majority of baby boomers seems to have been to raze the forest they got to enjoy behind them (as opposed to planting trees whose shade they’d never sit in like most generations aspire to), and they seem to be having remarkable success in that.
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The wealthy are savvy but with the boomers gone they lose a lot of their support. Of course they will try to maintain the status quo, but the people will be affected by the material conditions and see the truth. The only thing we have to fear is hate, but MTG, Boebart and Desantis were all elected by Boomers. Young people don’t vote for those idiots. I’m more concerned about Andrew Tate.
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This isn’t new though, many boomers were the hippies at one point, they had the photocopier, fairness doctrine TV & Radio and liberal attitudes for sex, gender, and civil rights.
But the same tactics were used to stop and convert many of them, plus around half of them were the same sort of assholes that give them a bad name now.
thats the ethos you project onto boomers, not the ethos boomers live by.
The results speak for themselves. The majority of their generation’s attitudes about the results indicate satisfaction with the results.
Not true. You dont know what they think or feel
The issues they left behind will last for generations. Funny that anyone could believe this goes away in our lifetime.
Or that we won’t make new problems that we get to blame on new generations. It will never end
It’s not about a magic cure that’ll fix everything over night.
It’s about repairing decades of harm done by a generational mindset that valued wealth acquisition and material possession above every other facet of society. We won’t fix that trauma in one, two, or three generations but it will get better and better with time and distance to boomerism.
The values of wealth accumulation and materialism are not at all limited to or even expressed mostly strongly by the Baby Boomer generation.
The line of thinking that capitalism dies with boomers or that Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, or whatever comes next will not fully embrace capitalism and will move towards socialism or some other non-competitive society seems pretty naive.
Humans are a competitive species. Most people want to win. I doubt this mindset dies with boomers.
Humans are a co-operative species, same goes for our ape and monkey cousins.
It is this instinctual nature of working together that enabled us to take down bigger prey, settle new lands, and become the dominant species on the planet.
I don’t disagree. That said, would suggest that externally we are cooperative, but internally we are competitive. Even in ape families, there exists a hierarchy generally ruled by the biggest, strongest male.
Which brings us back to the point at hand. Will humans come together to solve climate change? Or will humans continue to try to win at all costs?
I can see either as a possibility. But I don’t see boomers dying as a catalyst.
The rich are very concerned about the fact that all statistical evidence pointing to younger generations being starkly more socially minded than boomers. Don’t forget that Millennials have lived through a major economic crisis. Just like the Great Depression, that generally makes people realize that Capitalism is bullshit.
The wealthy are funding massive propaganda campaigns as a result. They are unfortunately making some in roads with young men. But overall I don’t think it will be enough.
Don’t forget that Millennials have lived through a major economic crisis.
Yes, yes we have.
I’ll be very interested to see how the younger generations age. Anecdotally, I’ve witnessed numerous people go from progressive socialists, to centrist capitalists as they age. Not saying that will continue, only saying this as I’ve seen similar studies that show younger people are more progressive than older folks every 5 years for the past 3 decades. It’s not a terribly new concept, and I’m hopeful that it remains true.
I agree! A change of the mindset is generational change at best. In many cases flawed ideologies and poor educational standards are just beeing continued. Yet I want to be one of the naive and think that there will be a new way of thinking and noticeable political change. For the better or the worse…, who knows?!
The next most conservative generation is Gen X. All few dozen of us. Expect those with power to retain it with massive use of wealth to constrain the rules of democracy, rather than numbers of voters.
It will solve the problem of their voting habits. They have lead us down this insane path because they are a narcissistic generation. Things won’t be perfect, but we might, just might, start turning things around. If we still can.
Boomer is a state of mind. They are never going extinct.
Because that’s how it works, right? When your house is flooded because of a burst pipe, when you replace the pipe then your house is magically unflooded right? I mean of course no reasonable person thinks that, but that seems to be the understanding you’re suggesting. Meanwhile you’re trying to say that if we do repair the pipe and the house is still flooded, rightly acknowledging that the pipe is 100% the cause of the flood is somehow… wrong?
The facts are that boomers fucked the world up, heavily, and did everything they could to hold onto power and rob the next generation (at least) of their deserved place in the driver’s seat of society, and cleaning up the messes and lessons left over by the boomers will take generations to clean up. The fact that boomer built long-term systemic problem without simple solutions does not mean that the boomers are not entirely at fault or that we aren’t entirely better off without them.
I dunno, I feel like if I lived through the Black Death and I was there when—at the end of the suffering, surrounded by death—the last plague rat died, I’d take it as a win…
They’re smart to balance their checkbooks on the way out. They never let any opportunity to consume go to waste.
But then you have to blame the job creators!?
most boomers where lost generation per them
i said what i said
They were called the Me Generation but they got offended and changed it to Boomer
Shame the damage they did won’t go with them.
And they’re not done yet! It’s also a shame they’ll probably waste the money they’ve accumulated on the worst possible things and people on the way out (fueling the dumpster fire).
Interesting to look at, numbers wise… but it makes me think of the time I have left with my parents. I’m calling them tomorrow!
now*
The problem isnt going to end with them. My right wing friends are completely indoctrinated by their boomer parents. And getting louder and louder about it.
They’ll be outnumbered after the boomers are gone. They’ll either have to adapt, hide back in the shadows, or go full extremist.
Here’s to hoping. It’s exhausting. I can’t have a single conversation without them slyly trying to slip in some earworm or go off on a tirade unexpectedly because I inadvertently trigger them.
I would just kindly tell them to shut the fuck up
Here’s to hoping. It’s exhausting. I can’t have a single conversation without them slyly trying to slip in some earworm or go off on a tirade unexpectedly because I inadvertently trigger them.
It’s worth the effort though. Thank you, citizen, for taking the time to do so.
WTF are Keanu Reeves and Madonna doing there 😃
Madonna - Born 1958
Keanu - Born 1964 so boomer of the cutoff year.
It’s not my countdown clock, but all the images they chose are of the baby boomer generation, chronologically.
False.
I concede the point, the argument, and my very life.
May Keanu have mercy on my soul.
I get that I just thought its supposed to be dead by boomers up there
Patience, grasshopper.
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Just How stupid does one have to be to think all their woes exist with only one generation? There are far bigger monsters alive today in current younger generations (many in millennial) that are far more destructive to our lives and the earth. They’ve seen more $$$ than any boomer and will laugh at you while you live out of a garbage can.
And you’d still probably be posting stupid memes like this acting completely oblivious to the burning hell around you.
The boomers also have high levels of wealth inequality
Ok boomer
K incel.
Incel? Oh no! My husband is going to be devastated by this news
K.
OK, person I just blocked.
Who even are you? Are you 12?
At 12 they can start blaming you genz for literally everything. That makes you the boomer.
They don’t vote. Boomers always vote.
So stop whining and vote! Remember: You will ALWAYS be voting for the lesser of two evils.
Why settle for a lesser evil?
You will ALWAYS be voting for the lesser of two evils.
Unless you run for office yourself.
Then you’ll be the one getting called the lesser of two evils
Then you’ll be the one getting called the leader of two evils
It’s the violence inherited in the system. (And yes, that’s a Gen-X timeframe related quote (in a deep meta ironic sort of way)).
AKA, what goes around, comes around.
But still, it’s worth doing. Better to solve your own problems, versus waiting for somebody else to solve them for you.
Or write in someone you believe would actually be good at the job. Then you don’t have to vote for someone you believe to be unqualified.
…as long as choice #3 isn’t apocalyptically bad, right?
Right?
…as long as choice #3 isn’t apocalyptically bad, right?
Right?
That’s only true if everyone believes that, a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Would really be fantastic to see just once, one time, everyone interconnects on social media and agrees to vote on a third party, as an experiment if nothing else, to finally prove/disprove that theory.
Funny enough these newer generations have this communicative interconnectivity of the Internet available to them, that previous generations didn’t have, but they don’t seem to use it, instead they just share mene pics/vids, etc.
Could you imagine the political earthquake though if a third party actually won? Would be glorious to see.
The problem there isn’t that we (assuming the US) don’t want third parties, it’s that our voting system encourages party consolidation rather than cooperation. That only gets more true the higher in the government you go.
The problem there isn’t that we (assuming the US) don’t want third parties,
That’s not true. People don’t vote for third party because of the self-fulfilling prophecy, but it doesn’t mean they don’t want it. They also want ranked-choice voting.
I would advocate to put that self-fulfilling prophecy to the test, even if just as an experiment one time.
You’re framing your indignation from a place of generality. No one thinks that boomers are the sole source of the World’s woes. However, they are the largest generation and tend to dominate discussions surrounding housing and the economy. They also make up a huge portion of the elected officials in North America, and younger generations have had it much harder than boomers ever did. It’s a lie that millennials and gen z have had more money than our parents and grandparents ever did. We don’t have nearly the purchasing power people did in the 50s and 60s.
It’s Lemmy. The hive mind demands sacrifices. And reason is one of the most valuable.
I find this insanely interesting. I hope someone does this for us Xers but I have a feeling that everyone will forget about us.
And with this, I’m also interested in the rate of change here. Are boomers dying faster, slower, steady rate?
https://incendar.com/generation_x_deathclock.php
They got you!
Fuck that website, it lists abortions as deaths LMAO
Oof, does it a least list miscarriages too? Not that we’d know the actual number
It would be very surprising if the rate was steady. Boomers are ages 59 to 77 today. The ones who have died have been on the younger side, but it won’t be long until most are within a standard deviation for average lifespan.
Also, there weren’t the same number of boomers born every year. In fact, 1946 had a spike of them, and the rate started falling off each of the last seven years or so of the range. So we started with more older boomers than younger boomers.
As an interesting side note: I have heard multiple times that Gen X is the Trumpiest and most conservative leaning generation, even more than Boomers or Silver. I find it plausible. The silver generation has old progressive labor movement diehards, and boomers have hippies. But Gen X never really had a progressive culture movement. They came of age during Reagan and Clinton.
The good news is, there isn’t many of us. Boomers and Millennials are the two biggest groups.
But yeah I already hear BS like, back in my days we roam the streets blah blah blah from folks my age.
I’d bet this site just uses something like a census base percentage, apredicted end date and a countdown clock that creates the percentage/rate.
I love how many people are going on about how one generation isn’t the cause of all our problems. I agree. Neither the post nor the website say anything good nor bad about any generation, just that it’s -mildly interesting- that boomers just hit 1/3 dead.
The young hate the old for having more than them.
The old hate the young for having more time left.
No other arbitrary age cohort has been so unjustly hated in American history
No other age cohort has been responsible for caring for the earth for the time they were adults and done such a horrific job. In the US, the cherry on top is also that this generation kicked everything their parents generation fought for into the dirt, including most of the social safety net, because of a bunch of dumb conservative rhetoric.
I think it is pretty just as far as generalizations go, though of course it is a generalization.
It must be weird judging a whole generation based only on what you know from learning about via social media.
Wait, why do you consider learning about things initially through social media a bad thing?
Sure there is a ton of nonsense and outright lies out there, but social media is also unarguably a massive source of education for people on a dizzying array of topics. Look at how silly but genuine ADHD tiktok or instagram accounts have massively raised awareness about ADHD for the better as only one example. Look at /r/ADHD as a huge source of good information and discussion for people with ADHD as another. The existence of social media has irrevocably raised the voices of the oppressed in a way TV and newspapers aren’t really interested in doing except for the odd anomaly that gets through the filter of the rich.
sigh whatever…
Wait, why do you consider learning about things initially through social media a bad thing?
Sure there is a ton of nonsense and outright lies out there
You answered your own question.
For the record, I’m distinguishing between “Social Media” and “the Internet”. The former is for entertainment, and the latter is for learning/knowledge.
Ok, boomer.
No other arbitrary age cohort has been so unjustly hated in American history
You talking about Boomers, or Gen-Xers?
mildly interesting- that boomers just hit 1/3 dead.
I do wonder about the accuracy of that though. It’s not like the website owner went through every death certificate ASAIK.
That’s how statistics work. You take a sample and abstract it to the population. If you required every one to be checked, then no numbers of any sort would be made up because that’s too much work.
That’s how statistics work. You take a sample and abstract it to the population. If you required every one to be checked, then no numbers of any sort would be made up because that’s too much work.
Yeah sure, I’m aware of how statistics work. I’m just not confident that they are interpreting the statistics correctly.
Who the fuck put keeanu in there?
Just checked, wow he’s technically a Boomer! Born in 1964, so just made it.
No, as long as he stays below 50 he’ll be fine.
Yeah, but he’s not dead yet like the picture implies
Neither is Madonna. Those aren’t pictures of dead boomers, just famous ones.
Just checked, wow he’s technically a Boomer! Born in 1964, so just made it.
The identifier should be started at the age you entered society, and not the age you came out of your mother’s womb.
You can infer the age you entered society from the age you left the womb.
You can infer the age you entered society from the age you left the womb.
That doesn’t work. Technically I’m a Boomer, but I act and think completely like a Gen-Xer.
In fact growing up I used to give Boomers crap myself, until I got more wise. They acted completely different from me, based on the times they grew up in.
That’s…not even close to a Boomer. WW2 ended 20 years earlier lol.
I don’t understand, are you confused at the age range for Boomers? It literally says it in the image…
Yes. Didn’t notice those dates. Still makes no sense if you take the name literally though…
Yes. Didn’t notice those dates. Still makes no sense if you take the name literally though…
You’re wrong chronologically, but you’re right based on how those labels are used to judge people’s social values.
So it takes 20 years for a sexed up WW2 vet to hop in the sack after returning from the war?
So it takes 20 years for a sexed up WW2 vet to hop in the sack after returning from the war?
Fuck if I know, that’s not what I’m speaking about.
You don’t pop out of your mother’s womb already programmed to have an understanding of the socieity that you live in. You learn as you go from external sources (parents, family, society) and you act a certain way at each milestone of your life (child, young teenager, older teenager, young adult, adult, middle aged, senior).
When we all judge someone by applying a generation label its done based on how they act/opine, and not the chronological date that they entered the World. There’s a lag/delay from when a person starts to exist on this Earth to the time they form a personality and express said personality.
I don’t understand, are you confused at the age range for Boomers? It literally says it in the image…
I get where they’re coming from.
The starting point is normally defined at the time you came out of your mother’s womb, but it really shouldn’t be.
It should be started at the point where you first enter society as a child, and start learning your generation’s societal values.
Basically, when you started kindergarten, or Elementary School.
The generally accepted window for Baby Boomers, despite horny soldiers being home from WW2 for many years after 1945, is the window written in the post.
He didn’t leave the matrix yet?
Keanu is eternal.
I guess technically he’s a boomer, but he’s 1000% gen x. He doesn’t make moves like a boomer would.
Some real ‘elven king of the dwarves’ energy!
I guess technically he’s a boomer, but he’s 1000% gen x.
The identifier should be started at the age you entered society, and not the age you came out of your mother’s womb.
Someone who can’t count. Meaning this list is completely useless.
Not long ago I found out that my dad is too old to be a boomer. Apparently it’s called “the silent generation”.
The real question is if your grandma, on the other side, is from the same generation as your dad. Then shit gets weird.
Is this like a timer for when we can start fighting climate change?
Why the fuck are you waiting on your opponents to die when it’ll be too late? Just do what you want and then fight or kill them if they try to stop you.
Nah. Gen X are basically boomers so gotta wait that one out too.
No, because it was never about the boomers.
Putting Keanu next to dead Boomers is like when Micheal Scott announced he hit Meredith and the doctors did all they could.
Why would you phrase it like that?!
It’s a start.
I kid, I kid, my parents are already dead, not everyone who was/is a boomer is horrid. But this generation has hung around power for too long, it’s time to move on.
Boomers were hated by their elders for being too liberal and hated by their youngers for being to conservative.
Boomers were hated by their elders for being too liberal and hated by their youngers for being to conservative.
BoomersPeople were hated by their elders for being too liberal and hated by their youngers for being to conservative. Since, like, forever.Fixed this for you.
They got more conservative as they got older. All those hippie kids who protested Vietnam and experimented with drugs and sex ended up voting for Reagan.
People seem to have this view that everyone in the '60s was a hippie but that’s just not true. Time Magazine put the number around 300,000. In a country of 200 million, that’s only 0.15% of the population. They were a counterculture not mainstream culture. The vast majority of kids did not become hippies, and many actively hated the hippies.
A hell of a lot more than 300,000 people experimented with drugs and protested Vietnam.
A hell of a lot more than 300,000 people experimented with drugs and protested Vietnam.
True, but not all of them were hippies.
A lot of regular people, especially the younger generation, were doing drugs and protesting Vietnam.
Those two things are not what makes a hippie a hippie. It’s their life view that does.
People seem to have this view that everyone in the '60s was a hippie but that’s just not true.
'60s, maybe not, but 70s? There was a lot more of them then.
But yeah, not everyone was.
Are you saying they took what they wanted, then pulled the ladder up after them?
It sure seems like they feel that way about social security.
It sure seems like they feel that way about social security.
We paid into it, we should be able to get the benefits from it, just like any other American in any other generation.
All those hippie kids who protested Vietnam and experimented with drugs and sex ended up voting for Reagan.
No, we didn’t. Also, inflation and Iranian hostage situation.
