“Leadership? I just wanted a cushy job that makes me feel important and connects me with rich, powerful people. What about that do you poors not understand?”

I tried to head it off by shaming OP for being an asshat (I was the first Hexbear to reply), but it didn’t work and I had to dunk on another dipshit lib for a while afterward. Wasn’t too bad though, that lib got owned pretty hard and ran off to .world comms within like 5 hours.

Racism, you complete blockhead. She was a horrendous racist.

Do you want flag-borne diseases? Because this is how you get flag-borne diseases!

You have to cook your flag to medium well to be safe!

Yogthos isn’t a Hexbear, and .ml’s worldnews comm is not a Hexbear comm. Good try, though!

I could quibble over the circumstances (and, unfortunately, likely outcomes in the near future), or argue about your dig at the USSR, but honestly I’m more inclined to cede the point on this. I don’t really have anything against anarchists or anarchism; I was mostly just giving a flippant answer to that other commenter, who was being a smug jerk.

In my ideal postrevolutionary society, there would be special political/economic zones where anarchists could live and try to build a model for the society of the future, sheltered from external threats by the communist state. I don’t think anarchists and MLs necessarily need to be at odds.

Ok this sounds absolutely sick I need this

You’ve been talking down to me this entire time and you claim to have degrees in both economics and political science, and you’re now complaining that I’m being elitist for pointing out that you’re not actually familiar with my ideology in any depth?

(Which anyone with a decent understanding of Marx would know, and therefore avoid using the word in a description of Marxist goals.)

Marx’s utopian conception of a classless society

Tell me you don’t understand Marx without telling me you don’t understand Marx

Edit: LMFAO YOU CITED ZIQ BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Look, I’m not trying to justify everything the Bolsheviks did during the Russian Civil War. I don’t know enough of the history to make a judgment call on most of that stuff. So I’m going to leave the question of morality entirely aside on this one.

But I don’t think you can call your revolution successful if, within a few years, some external force is able to show up, wreck everything you were doing, and take over. It’s not enough to just temporarily wrest control away and set up your committees and your resource distribution system and declare victory. You have to establish long-term security and stability. If you don’t, you haven’t had a successful revolution.

No, he’s referring to communists there.

Ah yes, the evidence of history. Like all the successful anarchist revolutions?

I can’t believe we are having to rehash the Kautsky debate in the year 2025

The article was published in 2019 (rather notably prior to the ratfucking of Bernie 2020, which shifted this very debate dramatically), so maybe we aren’t?

Always good to fight other leftists as fascism closes its grip on the imperial core. Great strategy.

(Posts like this aren’t allowed on Hexbear, and for good reason. What value is there in shitstirring like this? Why be needlessly antagonistic? I really don’t get it.)

Well, fuck

Friend, I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that you are experiencing more comfort than you deserve, when you aren’t able to get basic medical care. You and your family are not the problem here, nor even all of the people like you collectively, but the system as a whole, one you didn’t choose and obviously don’t support.

Yes, things are going to get worse here in the US. No way around that at this point, unfortunately. The next few years in particular are going to be ugly. But to the extent that you and yours suffer because of that, it is undeserved; you do not need to atone or balance some cosmic scale of economic justice somehow.

As communists it is not our goal to castigate people for their privilege, nor to murder everyone on the wrong side of some mysterious dividing line between proletariat and petit bourgeois. Our goal is to reorient the relations between the people and the means of production, to focus the economy on improving the human condition, and more broadly, to prove that a better world is possible by building it. There is no requisite amount of self-flagellation necessary to call yourself a leftist, you have only to work to advance the cause in whatever ways are within your ability given your material circumstances (including time pressures and mental health challenges).

In short, give yourself a break; you haven’t done anything wrong.

This piece was in my feed right near this thread, as it happens. Seems to be approaching the same issue from a different direction.

Tfw your attempt at irony reads like a correct take