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Cake day: July 12th, 2023

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  • PERFECTLY CLEAR? They walked back calling them WEIRD, let alone FASCISTS! And the moment they win Biden is shaking hands and saying lets all get along! Where’s the panic? Where’s the urgency?

    People do not know what’s going on. They still don’t. You have no appreciation for how much noise is drowning out the signal. If the Dems gave a shit about democracy they should have called Don a pedophile 1000 times every day of the campaign.


  • American democracy and freedom are fucked. But I don’t blame those 36% of non-voters. These people were INSPIRED to give up on politics.

    It’s the media environment. Political coverage fucking sucks by design. Left populism is too interesting to be given air time, too much of a threat to the people who fund the parties and own the media. Politics used to be interesting. Politicians used to say things, now they just run out the clock with white noise.












  • Well if it’s really absolute then you could legally point a knife at someone and say “give me your money” . You haven’t caused physical harm at that point and you’re only exercising your freedom of speech.

    You could say OK, that’s not allowed because you’re mugging somebody and that’s a threat of violence. But in that case you’ve carved out an exception for threats of violence and therefore calling for violence against a person or group also becomes not allowed.

    What about exceptions for fraud? What about for verbal abuse or harrassment?

    And if you’re going to have exceptions, then how do you deal with obfuscated language and insinuation? “Would be a real shame if something bad were to happen to your family” - is that allowed? A nice friendly, supportive comment like that? If you can’t say that you can’t say anything.

    Or that’s usually how it goes with people defending hate speech or veiled threats of racial violence.


  • I think disappointment in people is a very reasonable attitude. In fact I think cynicism towards people in general is one of the core defining attitudes of our time, and it transcends political boundaries.

    But as a filthy leftoid, I believe that there are socio-economic forces which are responsible for how people are in a given era. The spread of misinformation on the internet, social alienation, poor education with no media literacy, logic or critical thinking - these are not innate flaws in human kind, they are failures of society that can be fixed.

    So you can see we have a real problem, because leftism and even liberalism is built upon respect for and faith in humanity - but very few act like it.




  • Absolutely right on point A.

    Point B: This is wrong and you’ve obscured the idea. " we ( potential third party voters ) must vote for them because we ( left voters as a whole ) are voting for them " It’s not circular logic, they are two different groups.

    So as someone who wants the DNC ( and the GOP ) to disappear, here’s what I think are the important questions:

    1. At what point does a third party become viable?
    2. How do you build support for a third party when the spoiler effect is real and everyone knows it?

    IMO a good idea would be a threshold system. So anyone can join the party and say, " I will vote if there are X commited voters ". If not, the party stands down. They get to build support without spoiling the vote.

    This is all theoretical of course since the US may have just had it’s last election.