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PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netBanned to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish ·
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15 (Pretty Big) Differences Between Good Art and Bad Art

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15 (Pretty Big) Differences Between Good Art and Bad Art

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Tag urself. I’m MOCKS THE CONCEPT OF VALUES

https://twitter.com/oldbooksguy/status/1695775948569018481?t=b5YxtrzSkxNBP659ywCYyg&s=19

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  • DiscoPosting [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    measurehead — “GOOD ART CLARIFIES THE MIND AND HINTS AT FORGOTTEN VALUES. GOOD ART IS MAN’S DIVINE RIGHT AND TERRIBLE DUTY. THE WHINING, COPING, HAM SANDWICH RACE WISHES TO DESTROY THE CANON.”

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    One time I recommended Uncut Gems to a coworker, and she gave it a shot. She said it was the most bizarre film she had ever seen and it was completely contrary to her values.

    I asked what she meant, she told me she thought Howard was going through a redemption arc. That he’d eventually see the error of his ways after winning the basketball gamble and go around to everyone he wronged to apologize, hand them money, and then convert to Christianity (yes she said this). She told me she felt weird for days after seeing it. I think she’s more used to watching creepy evangelical propaganda movies.

    So that’s what this guy reminds me of

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      convert to Christianity (yes she said this)

      mf thought it was A Christmas Carol meets Merchant of Venice

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Hallmark Movies be like

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    this feels fascist

    this is basically the nazi obsession with removed art (the fact it was removed implies worse words than what I actually said)

    • Ericthescruffy [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      If “Hints at Forgotten Values” and “Believes in, and tries to produce, beauty” weren’t enough then “Good art is man’s divine right and terrible duty” should remove all doubt. Its most definitely Fasch.

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      On the offchance anyone doesn’t know, it’s the word that’s the opposite of regenerate

  • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    How are these losers still crying about Duchamp’s fountain over 100 years later?

    data-laughing

    • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netBannedOP
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      People still get absolutely furious at it decades later, so Im going to go ahead and say it’s good art

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        The ironic thing is that since the fountain exists to question what counts as art, any critique of it that frames it as bad art has already conceded that Duchamp is right.

        • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netBannedOP
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          It’s so good

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Long way to say that according to them, good art conforms to their biases, while bad art challenges them.

    I’d argue it’s the opposite. Good art should challenge the way you think, it should be capable of making you uncomfortable.

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    Uhm epSCUSE me, it is actually Very Important to have Good Art as it can only be produced and appreciated by superior* (*western, male) beings such as myself, see below for an important example

    • HotSoda [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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      That is legit a great sculpture too. Cloth is extremely difficult to sculpt.

      • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netBannedOP
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        It’s technically very impressive, and the artist is obviously very skilled, but I don’t think it’s good in terms of being interesting art

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          it’s a pretty realistic impression of a woman I don’t think it’s bad to like art like it

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            Realism for realism’s sake is boring

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              That’s a perfectly reasonable opinion but realism as a movement is defined by which part of reality the artist chooses to depict and that’s where the artistic expression comes in.

              realism is in art history the begining of the modern art movement and rejected traditional ideas about what could be depicted in art.

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                There is basically nothing interesting in terms of content about this, it’s just horny with bordering-on-cartoonish anatomy and good cloth and hair. It doesn’t express anything except objectification laundered through technical ability and detail.

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                This person chose to depict a woman in a flowy dress, which I also don’t find especially interesting

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          Anyone know who the artist is? I’m curious what else she’s done.

          I can see where you’re coming from. How everything is flowing, the fabric and the hair, is interesting to me though. But I’m biased, I used to sculpt. So maybe the skill on display is all I need. I wonder if she’s done anything that might be more interesting in a different way.

          • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netBannedOP
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            Luo Li Rong , I think

            • HotSoda [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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              Yeah looks like you’re right.
              She found her niche, that’s for sure. All “woman in flowing lace in bronze”. Which is cool. I always wanted to do a bronze sculpture. I have no talent compared to Luo Li Rong though.

              This one is cool. What do you think?

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                That shit is BRONZE??? Holy shit! What amazing work

              • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netBannedOP
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                About the same as the other one. There’s no doubt she’s good as hell at what she does, but it isn’t really for me. Probably id appreciate it on a technical level more if I had the experience you have

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                  There’s an artist I have to show you guys. Idk if anyone will like his stuff, but it’s definitely interesting. I can’t think of his name right now, but I’ll try to tag you when I do.

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      Good art is when awooga

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      also I don’t understand why I would have to fight or die for that statue. Maybe I’m an idiot here but if you want more sculptures how about instead of killing people make statues

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        I think they mean fight and die for booba

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        Ah, but you see, if the Asiatic Hordes Judeo-Bolsheviks Cultural Marxists win, there will be no one superior* (*western, male) left to build such statues! up-yours-woke-moralists

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      Classic miyazaki-laugh

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      Calling myself Dark Triad man because I piss the bed

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    every single descriptor for “good art” makes the most sense if you’re thinking it’s talking about porn lmao. i wonder if the author would agree?

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    Produces Momentum

    Good ArtTM solving entropy.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Real kino art is back on the menu boys.

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      Hell yeah. Makes me feel weird. Confuses my mind. Spit on beauty. Weed. Perfect image. 10 out of 10.

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    Some twisted, malevolently bad cartographer somewhere:

    :sicko-yes: i’m making this map wrong on purpose

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      Pokemon GO players editing Open Street Map

      sicko-ness

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    deleted by creator

  • Judge_Jury [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    His whole feed is distilled fart-huffing. Gonna grab a few favorite snippets:

    Beyond a certain level of intensity, ambition, and drive, of course “normal” people will start squirming around you. Elon knows this and has made his peace with it a long time ago

    Only Ayn Rand was smart enough to predict that incompetence and an ENVY for excellence will lead to dystopian social outcomes.

    The Unabomber Manifesto🧵

    Ted Kaczynski’s IQ: 167 Harvard admission: At 15 Youngest ever math prof, UCB: At 25 Money spent by FBI to find him: $50+ mil

    The manifesto attacks modern civilization like nothing else before or since

    13 best insights from a Philosopher-Terrorist👇🏻

    It’s amazing that Jordan Peterson delivered his most based material inside a fucking university.

    And now that he has infinite wealth he can only deliver platitudes.

    I have to stop, this could go on forever

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      It’s amazing that Jordan Peterson seemed slightly more normal when surrounded by peers and held to some level of accountability (not much)

      Oh but now that he’s much more wealthy and unaccountable to anyone suddenly his life falls apart. Weird

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      It has to be satire.

      Right?

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    A seething, unstructured, arythmic thing that made you feel weird, sapped your energy, set off a downward spiral, confused your mind, spat on beauty, mocked the very concept of values and enfeebled life itself? That is not bad art. That is a Great Old One.

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      Can be located via a Malevolently Bad Map

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    makes you feel weird

    Waaah, all art must exist as shallow, uplifting slop!

    mocks the concept of values

    How dare an artist endeavour to make something that questions my values!

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    I am “instinctively recognized as a scam”.

    Only thing that really fits is NFTs.

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      Idk, that was my experience of Pilgrim’s Progress

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        I really enjoyed it other than the one bit about the Ethiopian

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