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ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net to THE POLICE PROBLEM@lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 months ago

Guy made a blasphemous remark, and a religious mob went to lynch him. Police arrested him for safety, but actually they executed him instead.

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Guy made a blasphemous remark, and a religious mob went to lynch him. Police arrested him for safety, but actually they executed him instead.

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  • Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world
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    This sounds like a religion problem more than a police problem

    • subignition@fedia.io
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      There’s room for it to be both

    • huginn@feddit.it
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      It’s absolutely a religion problem

      The police didn’t do their jobs in some sense but religion was the root

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      How so, given a police officer is cited as responsible for killing the person, what has that got to do with religion?

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        I don’t know maybe the fact that a lynch mob exists in the first place, and the whole blashemy thing been the root cause, maybe people need a bit more critical thinking and less brainwashing from religion.

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          Assumptions are not critical thinking, as far as I can tell no reason has yet been reported for the police officer shooting.

          • tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world
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            Are you daft

          • Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world
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            Ok so it happened in Pakistan, a majority muslin population, where the punishment for blasphemy ranges from a fine to the death penalty. The religion of peace thinks it’s ok to kill someone for saying something bad about some guy, who may or may not have existed as long time ago. Just think about that for more than a minute and tell me that’s not crazy.

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            You’re either fucking stupid, or just stupid enough to think your argument is reasonable.

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        The police officer would probably have been part of the mob if they weren’t an officer, being an officer wasn’t the issue, being brainwashed by religion was.

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        That’s like saying retail was the problem because one of the dudes in the mob was a shop keeper. Look beyond the job.

  • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.netOP
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    The initial story and tweet. https://x.com/Arshadyousafzay/status/1833784208453472329

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      So people can just accuse somebody and get a lynchmob going, huh? I guess we’ve gotten a few instances of that in the West now too.

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        I mean, witch trials? Lynchings? We’ve always had that problem in one way or another.

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          Yes but part of progress and societal growth is giving up lynchings and mob justice. It’s intrinsically uncivilized.

          • Randelung@lemmy.world
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            Yes, but we haven’t managed that step, either.

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          Sure, but we aren’t in the dark ages anymore (at least we shouldn’t be?).

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            The last recognised lynching in the US was in 1981.

          • Randelung@lemmy.world
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            That’s what they said in the dark ages, too…

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              Yeah, probably not, bruv…

    • BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works
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      Is there any way to see threads on Xitter without an account? I can only see the post and none of the responses or subsequent posts by the OP

      • Programmer Belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        For now there are some nitter instances still working: https://xcancel.com/Arshadyousafzay/status/1833784208453472329?mx=2

        • BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works
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          You biscuit 🫡

          Thanks a ton.

          • Programmer Belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            No problem

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      Looks like Khatam-e-Nabuwat is a Pakistani religious organization? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aalmi_Majlis_Tahaffuz_Khatm-e-Nubuwwat

      • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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        Quetta is claimed by Pakistan

        (As an Indian, I fully support Balochistan separating from Pakistan)

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          Do you know more of the context of this mob attack? Does it have something to do with the politics of who owns that region?

          • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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            Do you know more of the context of this mob attack?

            Religion

            Does it have something to do with the politics of who owns that region?

            I don’t think that’s the case. It’s just everyday crazies going nuts because someone told them that they should be offended.

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    Je suis Charlie.

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    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it’s not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they’re investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers’ names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with ‘law enforcement experience’ and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It’s called “Wandering Cops.”

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That’s the solution.

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• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

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• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

• So you wanna be a cop?

• When the police knock on your door

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