China will not save us. The global proletariat must rise up.
NOWHERE did I say I oppose China. I just thought this was an interesting video. Watch the fucking thing before hating and yelling about ultras.
“revisionism”
Hot take but:
People who seem to say this nowadays say this like a thought-terminating epithet.
For many, it is, and they say this more than “dogmatism” or “doctrinairism.”
If someone gets offended seeing the word “revisionist” you know what they are. I don’t trust anyone who doesn’t criticize revisionists. “Revisionism” should not shut down conversation but lead to discussions surrounding what errors were made. Everyone should criticize both dogmatism and improper pragmatism. I know your party falls into much dogmatism itself. You use the same tired electoralist/legalist strategy that supports settler colonialism and accomplishes nothing. You dogmatically cite old CPUSA leaders and continue their failed strategies with minimal critical thought.
Revisionism is a great scourge on socialist history leading to failures from the US to Nepal. Dogmatism sucks too, but they often go hand in hand.
Also, from my viewpoint, the Communist Party of Peru is an example of revisionism in action after Gonzalo took over.
IMHO, Maoism is revisionist and I think that’s the angle you’re attacking me from. I could be wrong and you can scuttle your actual angle or position or politics all you like. I’d prefer you state what type of ML or Marxist you are rather and say it proudly rather than try to muddy the waters. Even saying “anti-revisionist ML” would be better at this point.
But making an an hominem is silly and a trite tactic, much less trying to divert the discussion.
Labels are silly. Call me a decolonial Marxist. I am generally pro-China, but am currently delving into other theory to form an all sided view. The point of the quotation is that CPUSA legalist nonsense is revisionist.
“Labels are silly.”
No, “revisionist” is a completely acceptable term; it’s just overused by a lot of Maoists nowadays.
“decolonial Marxist”
The communist movement is largely decolonial unless you’re some silly PatSoc.
The point of the quotation is that CPUSA legalist nonsense is revisionist.
No, I think you’re just being inflammatory by bringing up my politics in a convo that has nothing to do with the CPUSA.
I really suggest "Socialism With Chinese Characteristics a Guide for Foreigners " on this, the author was the first non-chinese employee at the school for marxism and knows Chinese and has read marx and lenin in their original languages and has a wide knowledge of Chinese socialism. Goes over a lot of the myths this guy seems to be falling for, namely the idea that Deng abandoned class struggle and purposefully took the capitalist road, ruining the project forever. Paired with its historical materialist analysis of China and deep knowledge of party history it offers so much more than any westerner that’s never been to China could offer. I have yet to learn the opinion of maoists in the third world (something that I’d like to learn a lot more about ) but this video was pretty ahistorical and western brained tbh
I’ve literally read that book and watched his interviews.
