Man… Imagine actually losing a child, and then seeing this man call his daughter dead simply because she is trans.
It’s actually an unbelievably awful and sad thought… And it’s not hypothetical. It’s very real.
Also, speaking as a disowned trans woman, while not the case here, often the parents saying that refrain either were the ones to cut contact themselves, or are engaging in missing missing reasons shit
It’s not uncommon for even loving and supportive parents to need to mourn their idea of who they thought their child was as they get to know them as they are now. But that’s a time to maybe attend some pflag counseling sessions and talk to parents who’ve been through it and can assure them that their kid is the same person and going to be happier. Making a public stink and getting involved in transphobia guarantees lasting damage to your relationship if it can ever be recovered.
I’m so very sorry to hear that happened to you. There’s a lot of parents out there that are… less than optimal. I guess the various survivors will just have to build our own found families out of people worth our time.
Yeah. Though it should be noted, it’s actually rare for disowning like that to be permanent. I’ve known my fair share of us and contact is usually reestablished a few years later. At nearing 10 years without meaningful contact I’m an exception. But for those who do reestablish contact the years and trust that are lost are incredibly important. To lose family during such an emotionally and materially vulnerable time does lasting damage and some parents don’t seem to get why their child, while open to reestablishing contact, can’t let things go back to how they were before.
And yeah I’ve been fortunate, I find myself surrounded by love and community at stage after stage of my life. Some scars are difficult to heal, and so I do like to speak up on this topic in case someone who needs to hear does.
love seeing references to Down the Rabbit Hole out in the wild
This is my first thought and is another level of awful on this shit sundae. Trans rights are a whole separate conversation. Let’s start with the fact that some people do lose their children and would do ANYTHING to have them back for one fucking day. A father who buried their child would be well within their rights to beat the ever loving shit out of Elon for this post.
NO. No they fucking didn’t die. What YOU did was decide you’d rather have a dead son than a living daughter. What YOU decided was your child wasn’t worth it. That you didn’t love them enough to learn anything or change your fucking mind.
It’s even worse than that. He’s lying. According to Vivian, he didn’t give a shit that she was trans until he turned alt-right. Now he’s trying to use that to score points with his new fanbase.
He didn’t care about her pre-transition. He doesn’t care about her post-transition. He doesn’t care about a “woke mind virus”. He’s just doing the right-wing equivalent of virtue signaling. Vice signaling?
The “best” part is that it’s basically all because she pointed out what a POS dad he was, and when some stupid publicity stunts he did to make her like him didn’t work, he turned on her and went on this “woke mind virus” tirade. He’s such a petulant child it’s absolutely hilarious.
Oh, I didn’t know about that history. I thought it all started with the Jordan Peterson interview.
I mean isn’t he choosing all male children? What else do you expect.
He’s a literal technofascist and yes he is, almost none of his kids are reportedly natural conceptions and there’s some evidence to suggest botched penis vanity surgery prevents him from having children naturally.
there’s some evidence to suggest botched penis vanity surgery prevents him from having children naturally.
Someone should do a study of these fucking losers to see how much overlap there is between hateful right wing ideology, bigots, pedos, etc. and dudes with deformed penises.
Didn’t Epstein also have a weird shaped penis? And Trump?
I don’t even know if he understands what sex is.
What evidence of a botched penis vanity surgery is there?
His ex grimes allegedly saying it.
There’s a difference between Grimes saying something and Azealia Banks claiming that Grimes said something. I’d be very skeptical of any rumor started by Azealia Banks.
There’s not, grimes has had ample opportunity to rebuke the idea and chose not to so it stands as circumstantial evidence.
I am skeptical of anyone giving musk the benefit of the doubt at this point, guess we’re just different people huh?
Nobody wants to respond to Azealia Banks, who is known for harassing other artists on social media, especially ones who don’t have the foresight to avoid interacting with her. Grimes didn’t comment the last name Banks dragged her into a feud related to Elon Musk, and later released a song about “trying to destroy Azealia Banks when she tried to destroy my life”.
Why would Grimes go out of her way to defend her ex against rumors about his penis when he just tried to block her from seeing their children? Grimes is not responsible for refuting rumors about Musk and she has every reason to ignore them, even more so when Azealia Banks is involved.
That’s an allegation, not evidence.
Sounds like circumstantial evidence to me…
Allegations from first hand sources are evidence, that’s an eye witness they have children together people have been convicted of murder on eye witness alone.
My limited understanding of the law is that allegations can trigger investigations in the hopes to find evidence, but are not evidences themselves. I could be wrong though.
Holy fuck is THAT what Vivian’s dead name is?! Jesus Christ what an absolute loser musk is… what is his obsession with the letter X
Dude is a like 12 year old, I swear
Basically his first “son” named X didn’t turn out the way he wanted, so he made another son named X.
And he changed twitter to X.
And X is an established nazi reference.
Elon is rotten and evil to his core.
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‘X’ is the 88th ASCII character.
This sort of stuff felt like reaching until I witnessed it myself.
For those who don’t know: X is like a swastica, and it’s the 88th ascii character, H is the 8th letter, 88 -> HH -> “hail Hitler”.
Yes. I do feel like Adam West’s Batman.
I haven’t seen evidence of X as a dogwhistle, though I would suspect if I did it would be like the OK sign, which was intentionally used to make antifascists look crazy
I’m not saying he’s not a nazi obsessed with the letter, both are true. But they don’t feel related and I haven’t seen non-circumstantial evidence predating Musk being a fascist.
I think the Nazi influence goes back pretty far for him. I heard that his grandparents were neo Nazis in Canada.
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Of course it is
He’s like a preschooler trying to use their power level
I’m honestly surprised that I somehow managed to miss that. There’s also X AE A-XII, and there are some others that have an x in the name such as Exa Dark Sideræl Musk and Saxon Musk.
such as Exa Dark Sideræl Musk
I hate this so goddamn much.
It’s a “my immortal” ass name
It’s like a fucking middle schooler saw the word “sideareal” in their science textbook and thought it looked cool.
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“You’re dead to me” is what a bad parent would say. To do it over political ideology is even worse.
I think this is innately a deeply personal issue to him - and he is now going to train the firepower of “the richest person on the planet” on everyone. thats where the politics and ideological alignment may come in.
one hell of a (sad?) real life “super-villain” origin story. the man needs mental help, and derision, but a lot of serious mental help.
The richest man in the world can buy anything except the love and admiration of his own child.
he WAS the richest, but last i saw, his personal net worth went down $200B! the largest loss of net worth ever. Keep it up guys and he’ll be in the gutter
He will never ever be in the gutter. I’m sure he has enough liquidity that he will be very wealthy no matter what his stock does, even if he couldn’t extract another penny out of his stocks somehow.
He’s a narsassistic asshole who apparently did IVF for all his kids because he wanted all boys.
That one of the kids ended up being a girl because she’s trans despite his effort at avoiding it seems to drive him crazy, especially as someone who thinks he owns his children.
he’s an asshole like all conservatives.
His kids are all IVF because his penis got broken during vanity enlargement surgery. Balding, chinless, dickless wonder who somehow thinks HIS genes need to be propagated with gold diggers. Respect to his daughter for being what she is, and not what he wants.
who somehow thinks HIS genes need to be propagated with gold diggers.
Who else is he going to propagate his genes with? At least they get paid for their service?
I was kinda implying there’s shitty genes from both sides, when both parents are shitty…
if anyone wants to check your post history, i’d bet they’d agree that your mother wouldn’t be very proud of you.
I loathe Trumpists, russian orcs and Musk cucks. Of course YOU don’t like it !
yeah, that all totally sounds like me.
where the fuck did you get the idea that i’m totally different from everything i say?
Yep and if he’s controlling he’ll HATE that she’s not doing as he wants and living as the gender she was assigned at birth
He’s not just narcissistic, he’s also autistic.
Autism has nothing to do with how he acts. Dont push that crap “he is autistic thats why he acts that way”
I agree. But Naia was politicising mental disorders and I thought I’d dare them to go all the way. I hate it when cowards only go after the mental disorders everyone already hates. It’s picking on the weak. Go big or go home!
What politicizing? That he is a narsassistic asshole? He’s also a psychopath, like all billionaires.
I don’t really know what you are even saying. Being autistic does not make you do nazi salutes then joke about it with puns when called out on it.
No mental disorder makes you do Nazi salutes
I’m autistic. What’s your point?
Politicising mental disorders is the same bullshit no matter which disorder. Musk is a person, his autism and narcissism have nothing to do with his political choices.
His narcissism most certainly has to do with his political choices, especially since it seems his narcissism is driving him to do stupider and more damaging actions. Also I doubt he is autistic dude was looking for an excuse for being unfunny and about as charismatic as a rotting opposum corpse cooking on the side of the road, also the afformentioned uncontrolled narcissism and long history of lying makes anything he claims suspect.
I doubt he has narcissism as much as you doubt he has autism. He doesn’t have a diagnosis. It’s just rumours. That’s not a good enough basis to be ableist. You’re forming stereotypes about narcissism based on a rumour based on stereotypes. It’s fucking xkcd citogenesis. You’re inventing your own truth whole cloth.
I’m addressing the trait of narcissism not the mental illness of narcissistic personality disorder. Two different things ones a mental illness and the other is being a maladaptive bitch who thinks they’re the center of the universe and everyone else is an NPC, I’ll give you that musk is definitely mentally fucked by multiple metrics but it ain’t ableist to point out that his mental issues are contributing to his political spiral. Just like how my mother’s abuse was made worse by her bipolar swings Musks Nazi tendencies were caused by his maladaptions and accelerated by his addiction.
Analysis requires acknowledgement of all factors and guess what to analyze Musk you have to factor in his mental instability. Mental illness often times often times works as an acceleratent for negative tendencies I know this from personal experience, both with my mother and my own issues since PTSD and autism is a right volatile mix.
Regardless I don’t feel like there’s any point in being not ableist to Musk, it’d probably piss him off. Treat him like the depressed little shit stain he is, maybe we will get lucky and he’ll decide to air out his skull with a 12 gauge slug.
I’m ADHD and probably autistic. I wouldn’t consider any theoretical children I could have as property nor dismantle programs people rely on to survive.
Being autistic and a greedy asshole is not mutually exclusive. There’s a big difference in not understanding social queues or whatever and having a breeding fetish or whatever he has when it comes to kids.
On top of all the other horrible things. Like Trump he desperately wants praise and such. Its why he lashed out and called that one guy a “pedo” because he felt upstages when he couldn’t be the one to take credit for saving the kids, not that he cared about the kids.
You should feel equally angry when people politicise any mental disorder.
But I’m not politicizing mental disorders. I’m calling an asshole an asshole.
Anyone who then comes out with the BS “but he’s autistic” is trying to politicize autism while also excusing his actions that are literally costing lives.
So spare me your moral outrage while my existance as both a neurodivergent person and a trans person is under attack by the peice of shit you are treating with kid gloves if not trying to defend
You politicised narcissism. Don’t do that. It’s offensive. And if you are going to be a bigot and attack him for having a mental disorder, I dare you to go all the way. Attack him for all his mental disorders, not just the ones society will let you get away with. Commit to your values properly. Go big or go home.
I feel like you are missing the forest for the trees here. You keep fixating on this like some kind of “gatcha” using the exact same phrasing as his defenders who claimed he did the Nazi salute because he’s autistic.
I personally do not give a flying fuck on what “mental disorders” he has. Also, autism is a developmental disability, not a mental disorder. There is a difference.
As far as “politicizing narcissism”, how is pointing out he has traits associated with politicizing it? Like, he’s a fucking fascist who is using the absurd level of wealth he’s accumulated to basically buy the government and get unelected power he is using to dismantle any agency that benefits the masses or has investigated him for business violations.
That’s on top of the social issues where he and Trump are trying to make it harder for minority groups to exist in the world.
It’s been well researched that conservatives tend to have many more narcissistic traits because the entire political ideology hinges on hierarchy and a “fuck you, I got mine” mentality. It’s also been well researched that CEOs are all more likely to have psychopathic traits.
It’s not “politicizing” pointing out traits someone has to explain what they are doing in politics or harm they are causing in general. If someone is a self-centered asshole who act like they are better than everyone else and uses that as the basis for denying other people rights then I don’t really care what the reason behind their self-centered nature is. An asshole is still an asshole. There is no justification or excuse for what they do.
You are basically saying “you’re the bigot” when I point out that a fascist is a fascist. You ignore the substance of what I and others are saying to just attack us and hand wave any issues we have with Musk.
Again, if you feel it’s more important to tone police us because we aren’t using language you like when we talk about a literal fascist that is causing uncountable harm and death, who is supporting and pushing for multiple genocides, who sees his children as property and is using a toddler as a human shield, then I don’t think we are going to find common ground here.
Musk’s actions are indefensible. The only people I’ve seen argue against criticism of him are his sycophants. You are doing “so much for the tolerant left” bullshit. My only question is if you are actually one of his cult members or just misguided.
But in the end it doesn’t matter. If you defend a fascist you are a fascist…
We should probably be more invested in renaming the disorder from a term that’s been an insult for millenia and as such would always be stigmatized
been an insult for millenia
In common use as an insult since 1979. Prior to that it was used in the psychological field for about a century
Yeah. Although it’s worth remembering it was an insult with a very different meaning in ancient Greece. Elon Musk is an attention seeker, but Narcissus wasn’t. Narcissus caused all that drama by not wanting to date anyone. Ameinias fell in love with Narcissus and asked for his hand in marriage. Narcissus said no, and told Ameinias to fuck off and die. So Ameinias prayed to the gods “let him love what he cannot have”, and that’s how the reflection thing happened. Narcissus was the opposite of an attention seeker, he just wanted to be left alone.
Not even political ideology, she’s just trans.
Twitter likes are more important to him than the wellbeing of his daughter
most parents are garbage, just never get a chance to show it.
Literally nobody in my day-to-day life has ever warned me about or even used the term ‘woke mind virus’. It’s a fucking ridiculous notion pushed by ignorant, non-serious fakers. If anyone did say that to me in person, I’d laugh at their face then turn around and walk away laughing so hard i’d be looking for a hand rail or wall to balance myself. It’s too bad social media doesn’t allow for that level of humiliating interaction
Is the woke mind virus here with us in this room right now?
I’ve heard it be used ironically
This is some JW disfellowshiping level behavior.
But sure Elon, you’re not the one in a cult, it’s everyone outside of your group that’s crazy.
Dude, are you an escaped JW disfelloshipped king/queen too? I totally did not expect to see this relation brought up in this thread!
No, but I know some ex JWs.
His kid isn’t dead, she just doesn’t go by that name anymore, and it is supremely dickish to treat her like that.
It’s more than dickish. It’s bigoted, dehumanising, and oppressive.
Fucking called her Xavier, I would change that even if I wasn’t trans
wait till you hear about X Æ A-12
Using an Æ without being able to pronounce it is both offensive and hilarious to me as a Dænish person
What’s the correct pronunciation in danish?
Æ
Nice try, Elon.
Isn’t it “ah” like Ænema?
I saw it explained as x ash a 12… So ae is ash i guess
According to Wikipedia there are 4 pronunciations in Norwegian alone, none of which are “ash”.
I initially thought it was pretty much like ä, but apparently that’s only one of the possible pronunciations.
Poor kid… Xasha 12 was at least a bit off a name.
Based on their relationship post-Luigi, I’m pretty sure you pronounce X Æ A-12 as “Kevlar”.
Now daddy is going to stand in front of an open window, so it’s time for a piggyback ride little Kevlar!
Yeah it’s certainly easier to pronounce than Xäa12 would be. But I mean if the muskmelon is just picking pronunciations he likes for letters, it can be absolutely anything. Maybe it’s actually Shanty
He can’t even pronounce Æ.
He probably thinks it’s pronounced like this:
That legitimately brightened my day a little, thank you. Made me smile
her, dear. but yes. that’s pretty bad. that name just does not work in english.
I’m in a German speaking place and I know someone named Xaver, which people here pronounce ‘Ksah-fffer’ (really strong f in the regional dialect). The English version is tame in comparison.
the spanish/portugese version is fine. maybe that name just shouldn’t leave places where people pronounce J like G rather than H.
Thx, fixed
Idk it’s a fine name imo. Sure if I hear a guy is named Xavier I assume black man, but it’s a name of both a saint and a comic book hero.
This isn’t the right thread to post it on, but no he can be shittier. He even pulled a preemptive Adolf Eichmann when he said that he never physically hurt anyone. This is what Eichmann said at his trial. That he never killed a Jew or ordered anyone to kill a Jew.
That was, of course, irrelevant. He was the architect of the holocaust and his actions are what allowed the 20 million victims to die.
Slight tangent here: it’s important for everyone to recognize how any organizational structure or bureaucracy contributes to the diffusion of responsibility. At best it’s accidental, but at worst, it’s used to protect those in power while ensuring the little guy is left holding the bag. At the same time, it helps everyone involved do their part since their individual role is usually very small and only slightly outside the moral bounds of the individual (if at all). You (anyone) may be in an organization that has the same patterns at play, * right now.*
This is also why RICO lawsuits are a thing, since it was nearly impossible to nail mob bosses to the wall without it. IMO, we still need something stronger as applied to the misdeeds of corporations, but I suspect that’ll be a long time coming.
Many countries did enact RICO style laws to stop organized crime. In Japan if one Yakuza member does something really stupid, they can actually arrest and charge many of his comrades even if they had nothing to do with his crime or even have knowledge of it.
Oh wow. If there was ever a Japanese take on something like RICO, “you have brought shame on your organization so all of your associates get punished” is probably the most Japanese one possible.
If he thinks himself eichnann I’ve got news for him, as he’s a major propagandist, and Goebbels and Streicher both hanged.
Julius Streicher was indeed hanged, but Goebbels committed suicide… along with his wife… after killing their children…
Oh yeah he was one of the ones who knew he was doomed and did it himself
A coward to the end, unwilling to answer for the crimes he knew he committed.
And seriously what a sick fuck to even kill his kids. The allies weren’t going to punish his children.
musk is clearly a deeply disturbed human being. this explains a lot and is, in and of itself, deeply disturbing.
is vivian the only close person who refused to be what he wanted them to be? the closest person that could not be bought and said “no!”? is this what broke him?
now everyone will pay for his inability to accept the truth and reality of another person.
a couple of thoughts that i’m sure aren’t popular on their face:
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it takes a village to fail an idiot. elon has shown in the past that he’s capable of being better than he is now. i don’t think there’s anyone in the world who* actually, really needs a genuine, loving hug right now more than he does (*edit - fixed sentence)
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it’s impossible to grow, learn, and make mistakes as a fucking trillionaire without it affecting millions of lives. everyone deserves to be able to make mistakes and learn and grow. it hurts us ALL when we allow people to amass such perverted fortunes. there shouldn’t be super-rich people with respect to the rest, because it’s harmful to all involved
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elon is in pain. not just right now, but all the time. it’s easy to see that he has a lot of regrets. he’s still human, and he’s still got a conscience. he’s just misled, and it might be better to rally around him right now than to burn down his dealerships
i’m sorry - i know at least one of these is completely crazy - i’m just racking my brain trying to think of new things, because the way i’m currently thinking is fucking me up.
I guess my thought is: What if we had more of a “We know you’re better than this” vibe than the whole “fuck you nazi” vibe?
Jesus may have turned the other cheek, but they executed him anyway.
i don’t get your point
Having an understanding that the issue is systemic and that all people ultimately deserve compassion, understanding, and justice does not negate the threat posed by someone in that position. Showing compassion to a person like that, who is an active threat, is dangerous. Once their ability to cause harm has been reduced or removed, then we can safely engage with them.
thanks, you’re right. but do you think it’s gonna take much longer to bring him to that level? something inside me wants to see the bigger Elon prevail. or do you think bringing him lower is just going to make him ore vindictive? he isn’t really hanging around with good friends these days.
(ps - i’m not being apologetic, i just really want to make sense of this)
Honestly, you are a detriment to the human race, and you are pathetic.
No, they’re someone who wants everyone to be redeemed and good to each other. That’s the point of the left. Violence against fascists is a tactic but it’s one we use because for some people at certain points violence is the only means to stop them from hurting people.
Elmo isn’t going to give you money. No matter how much you slurp :)
Cancer cells are just doing their best to survive but if no one will treat it I sure as hell am going to call it some dirty names.
fuck me, why does the most apt reply always have to be the last one i see?
totally get where you are coming from and thanks for the considered reply. I am sure others will answer, but here is mine…
the immediate, urgent imperative is extracting our collective asses from this mess. after that we need to discuss and make real proper boundaries on the nature of accumulated power and wealth.
I am personally not disposed to handle musk with kid gloves. his actions, and the actions of the other deranged humans he has enabled, directly affect people in my family in ways that place them in mortal danger. given the nature of his trauma (yup, he displays obvious trauma) and the path it entrenched him in, my inner armchair psychologist whispers to me that the only option is mitigation and management - or removal of the problem (non-violently… of course, right?). I do not believe there is redemption to be had for musk - and yes… that said I accept that I, personally, am probably a misguided human.
now, if someone were to conclusively show that hugging it out with musk would change course for the thousands, millions, billions of people who will be harmed by his ego, then I will personally line up and do so. however, at this moment in time the man is insulated enough so as to make him unreachable - just like the others he orbits with.
I believe the only option is mass protest and mass disobedience and there will be pain and there will likely be blood for many and I wish it were not so.
I cannot find the capacity to soothe musk back into his humanity - I do not begrudge those who might try, however futile I think it may be. and so, organization around alternate options remains a necessity.
i agree, and… i know that it must run its course now, but it’s unfortunate to see what i see as a lonely, creative kid whose life’s circumstances have stunted and perverted his desires, and now he’s just awful but he still thinks he’s doing good. a trillion dollars has got to fuck with anyone’s head. it shouldn’t be this way. (edit:) No one should have that much money. It fucks up inventors, it fucks up musicians, it fucks up religious leaders… it just shouldn’t be. Why do we let that happen to good people?
He was a bully as a child. He’s not a trillionaire. He’s a crime against humanity, Fuck off Elmo !
Very simple reason why:
He’s not better than this, simply because he would rather have this insane amount of wealth and NOT use it to aid people.
I hate bezos for that, I hate musk for that, and I hate Zuckerberg for that. Musk gets more hate for all the actions he has taken to benefit himself and the other billionaires. He has so much more blood on his hands than that United Healthcare CEO, and I am very much okay with what happened to that guy
I guess my thought is: What if we had more of a “We know you’re better than this” vibe than the whole “fuck you nazi” vibe?
He would continue dragging us all further to the right. That was the attitude many gave him, he just revealed how wrong they were to assume he was better than that
He’s literally the grandchild of Nazi supporters on both sides of his family, it’s super likely if not confirmed his parents were also Nazis. Dude isnt better than this and never has been
Guy has been at least been privately documented as an asshole for decades.
During his dance at his first wedding reception, he informed his wife that he was the “alpha”.
When his infant son died in 2002, he largely ignored it and said his wife being in pain over their baby dying was just her being “emotionally manipulative”.
He constantly demanded her to act and look a certain way, and berated her for being a bad wife.
He was not a better person back then, he just had a more carefully curated online and media presence. His ego has brought him to the point of dropping all pretense.
You can’t just keep assuming the best of someone acting badly and hope that support and understanding will bring the person around.
yeah, you’re right. nothing he does is sincere. i’m just racking my brain trying to find ways for change that don’t involve immolating dealerships. but i suppose that the French have already taught us better.
Your heart is in the right place. Violence alone cannot create a good world. We must strive for empathy and however and whenever this ends a lot of people doing bad things now will need reintegration into society.
But right now they’re running wild and hurting people. I think your empathy is better given to the red hat down the street that feels trapped and like society and the economy have passed them by.
Elon is in agony. His wealth is wounding him and making him unable to stop doing evil things. But he won’t give it up without a huge fight and he won’t change with offers. He thinks he’s winning right now.
For a good example of someone with too much money who has been offered countless gentle hands out of bigotry look at JK Rowling, who’s refused people who were once incredibly close to her giving gentle “hey you’re being bigoted and it’s hurting people who admire you and it’s hurting your reputation and legacy”.
If you want to do the noble work of helping tight wingers out of the far right look for videos from people who left the alt right talking about their indoctrination and leaving.
Fuck a hug, dude needs a comically large cigar tip cutter
i did not specify now long nor now strong the hug should be
edit - according to current sources, i don’t think a cigar tip cutter would facilitate your objectives.
he meant a guillotine
you’re the death of irony :P
I’m sorry, but seriously fuck him with the rusty chainsaw he used as a stand in for all the insecurity he has.
We are well past “you could do better” and more “needs to be tried for literally working to dismantling the government and ruining countless lives”
i’m not saying he’s not accountable, i’m just saying it could have been different. we all should have seen the culture war long before it cost us the fucking world. cowboy hats or extensions, you’re (edit: we’re) all fucked now.
The culture war has always been a manufactured distraction creates by conservatives to make people blame the powerless instead of the wealthy for their problems.
As a trans person I am fully aware of the culture war because it effects me directly. I was aware of it long before I considered I might be trans.
But the culture war is still a distraction. They want to blame the economy and stuff on everything but “corporate greed”.
But as much if a distraction as it is it sti does harm. It still kills people.
A-fucking-MEN. (edit: probably the worst possible time to ‘split the infinitive’ so to speak, but whatever)
for what it’s worth, i was trying to provide food for thought.
i hope you have a good sense of humour, because i imagine your typos are the result of having long, fabulous fingernails :P
The only chance to show him a better way probably over by the mid 80s. He had cemented a sense of superiority by then and whatever humility he might have had was completely blown away when he managed to sell Zip2 for millions, before anyone knew who he was.
The only way to “resolve” the “culture war” to Elon’s satisfaction would have been for Vivian to deny her identity and keep trying to be Elon’s son. There’s no fair or equitable resolution that caters to Elon’s sensibilities.
That’s the most fucked up part to me. His dick is broken, so he has to rely on IVF for kids. He’s apparently obsessed with having sons, so I’m sure that some fuckery went on with said IFV. and then he had a “son”. but his “son” realized that their gender was engineered. i can’t imagine how fucked up it must be to be her and realize that. now, her fucked up father is saying stuff like “my son is dead”. I think I recommended the wrong target for the hug.
Yeah, I couldn’t imagine ever acting like that toward my child the way he acts toward her. Just flat out declaring your child dead to everyone and refusing to acknowledge who they are now, just because of what they chose to do with their own life… It’s pretty heart breaking.
He doesn’t even have an excuse of losing his path to a genetic legacy, he’s got a dozen living children who may still go on to have children. He’s neglected all of them until Luigi killed a CEO and suddenly he’s carrying one around like an ornament all the time, but still they got his genes, for better or worse.
Maybe 1970s Elon could have used a few more hugs, but this century it’s just too late.
sometimes you just have to give credit where it’s due, and i’m sure my LLM query cost a bunch of people a day’s worth of artificial light, but here goes:
- anti-triumph
- a morality tale
- a cosmic farce
- an existential horror
- a shakespearian tragedy
- a greek tragedy
- a geek tragedy
- a cautionary tale
(i added the geek tragedy one. tip your waitresses)
yknow some people just say they’re OK with the “T” part of LGBTQ until their kid or brother becomes one.
the term “NIMBY” comes to mind. i never understood how someone can take offense to another person trying to feel more comfortable. isn’t that what we’re ALL trying to do?
Nah. Are you Elon? There’s a point where you have to recognize that a shitheel is still a shitheel. YOU hug him. I’d as soon piss on him for the harm he’s done to others. BY your logic, a billionaire (He’s NOT a trillionaire) doesn’t deserve second chances because the damage has been too great. There is only unfulfilled justice remaining, and hopefully that will catch up with him sooner rather than later.
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Did you see the video of him at one of the mar a Lago dinners yesterday, he was definitely high playing with the silvery, and his baby mama was swaying back and forth
Fucking idiot killed his son himself.There was no “virus”. He went with “you’re dead to me”. Vivian said that this is who she is and he killed her for it. He’s the loser - she’s living her truth and he’s blind to who he really is. What a clown.
One man’s transphobia and horrible parenting is tearing this country to pieces. This is the worst possible timeline. I can’t even begin to imagine what his daughter is feeling right now.
It’s far from just the one man.
That’s absolutely true. I transitioned over a decade ago and have never had a problem until Republicans randomly decided that trans people were a target recently. A buddy of mine transitioned 35 years ago and he’s in absolute pieces over the state of the country right now. He was harassed just yesterday while taking a walk, because he’s out and proud in the neighborhood. I’m absolutely terrified to see how bad this will get.
She just did an interview and a
photoshopsPhotoshoot in Teen Vogue. Vivian said she’s not afraid of her father at all and that he’s pathetic (direct quote) and that he can go to hell (paraphrasing).The interview dropped this week so that’s probably why Musk is tweeting like a 12 year old role playing their vague concept of a bereft father.
photoshops
I assume you meant photoshoot…
Lioool yes I did
Country? You guys are going to start a world war.
It’s equally likely to devolve into civil war instead, in which case we contain the atrocities to the States
Yay
Agreed, but then amongst the vacuum Russia aims at Europe, China takes Taiwan, and off we go.
Europe needs to step the fuck up right now. Don’t they know that appeasement doesn’t work? Are they going to continue standing on the sidelines for years while Ukraine fights on their own?
They can also stop this war. Europe can take action. Lead the world while the US has its head up its own ass.
Europe does take action.
Also, Russia is in no state right now to start a military attack on Europe more than they already do right now (i.e., cutting undersea cables, troll farming and election manipulation etc.). Russia can’t handle Ukraine with half-assed support from Europe/US, how could they handle Ukraine plus the rest of Europe?
They (i.e., the Russian government) are a fucking joke and no threat to anyone.
You had me until last part. Belittling level of threat that Russia and its allies pose is not good. Not good at all. Belittling encourages apathy and sense of superiority, which we cant afford.
I recommend ”Autocracy, inc.” book from last year 2024 by Anne Applebaum (which won a pulitzer) to you, all americans, europeans and anyone who actually cares about democracy, human rights.
Sadly, Russia and its allies are no joke. They are a threat we must take seriously.
Thanks, I’ll check that out. My current perception of the issue is quite the opposite, though: Europe has been in a shock state, not knowing what to do, because they were scared of Russia. Nobody dared confronting them. Ukraine is one exception, and as it turned out, the Russian military (apart from their nukes of course) is a joke. Turkey did that a few years ago as well, when a Russian fighter jet entered their air space for a few seconds and they just shot it down.
My current reading of the situation is that the fear of Russia is more threatening than Russia’s actual power.
Ruzzia is one of Drumphs third world shitholes. Everyone squats over a latrine pit outside of Moscow and St Petersburg. They have the worst food in the world and all the men are addicted to anti-freeze vodka. The greatest cause of death is self immolation because the fuckers won’t stop smoking everywhere and even their own women loathe them because they’re all trying to marry western men. It’s a grey country full of corruption and racism. In the last 4 centuries they have had maybe half a dozen decent writers and musicians. And somehow, Pootang the Tiny thinks they need to export their “culture” LOL
fuck off, traditional Russian food is excellent. You just have the palate of a child.
it could be worse. we could have this, but the nazis have trained combat apiarists, and the bees are on fire, and they make really gross not-quite-honey from your tears (and meth) that hey have dumb occult nonsense about and all pretend doesn’t taste like rotting skin.
Wanting to exterminate ideas is definitely not a fascist tendency.
I really cannot wait for the pendulum to swing back the other way. I am going to be absolutely insufferable about it until I die. These people have gone so far over the line.
Wanting to exterminate ideas is definitely not a fascist tendency.
From the same guy that said he wanted to “cure” autism. Surely you must jest.
Would you say eliminating the idea of the patriarchy or fascism itself is fashy?
I’d say eliminating patriarchy or fascism is coercive, but not (necessarily) authoritarian and definitely not fascist:
- Coercive because you’re using force to suppress the idea (e.g. punching Nazis, canceling abusers.)
- Anti-authoritarian if the people are organically self-organizing to punch Nazis. More authoritarian if a centralized power is drafting people to punch Nazis.
- Not fascist because fascism is inherently far-right, and predicated on enforcing a “natural” power hierarchy.
The Paradox of Tolerance justifies the forceful suppression of fascism and patriarchy. But imo you have to be careful - I limit my application of the Paradox of Tolerance to ideas that intrinsically cannot coexist with freedom of thought.
I swear… that guy lives in a cartoon.
As an elder millennial I liked to watch older cartoons of my childhood previously, but as I got older I thought ‘man I wish the world was that simple to understand with cartoon villains’.
Then I got even older and now I realize that the world IS that simple. Only problem is that we don’t have cartoon heroes to match.
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This is horrendous. Imagine saying “my child is dating someone black, they’re dead to me” or “I didn’t realise her mum was mixed race when I had sex with her so I’m severing contact with my child”. This is outrageous horrible and abusive. I’m genuinely upset about this
It’s even worse than that, it’s:
they’re dead
to meOh god you’re right. It’s scrubbing her off the planet altogether… she may even feel physically threatened by that
