- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.world
Kaity has just spun up a PieFed instance, which is open to anyone that wants to try it out.
PieFed is part of the “Threadiverse” along with lemmy and mbin. If you are already reading this in lemmy, then you already know what PieFed is about.
If you’re curious to try it out, or if you’re just looking for a way to avoid lemmy, you can find it at https://piefed.blahaj.zone/
Like our lemmy instance, we have set PieFed applications to require manual approval, but if you’re already a member of our lemmy instance, you can get auto approved by our modbot by quoting your registration code somewhere in your application.
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I’d love to know the performance different between the two. It feels like Lemmy should be more lean.
I’m not sure if this is a Piefed software issue or a Piefed Blahaj federation issue; has anyone had trouble getting communities from slrpnk.net to show up on the page to add a remote community? I’ve been trying to add !birding@slrpnk.net, which as far as I can tell is still up and functioning, but PF Blahaj just gives an error that says “Community not found.”
EDIT: facepalm, I was checking to see if it was up on my Blahaj lemmy account. slrpnk.net itself is down. Dunno how I missed that happening, but in my defense there’s been a little bit going on in LA right now 😅
I think I’m not really a fan of any of the existing mobile app options for PieFed. I’ll definitely keep an eye on that and see if any ones that I like more become available.
Cute logo
the best part about it is the cute lil shark icon in the trans pride theme <3
lemmy could never
I tried to love that trans pride theme, but the nicest thing I can say about it is that I’m happy there is explicitly a trans pride theme :P
Okay I’m super impressed so far! I absolutely love this. Way better than lemmy imo, I’ll be migrating there fully. The wiki feature for the HRT community is gonna be super handy and things like post flairs/tags is something many have missed here!
Things like a [transmasc] and [transfem] and [transneutral] tag for trans_memes f.ex!
common ada+kaity w
Ada and Kaity sitting in a tree! W. I. N. N. I. N. G!
And also kissing presumably
Lotsa kissys!
Has anyone written about the functional differences between lemmy and piefed?
Apparently it’s mainly more feature-rich/up to date/stable? That’s usually what I read at least
Isn’t run by tankies
I get that whole thing but like…you don’t feel the tankie presence much, if ever, outside of ml/lemmygrad/hexbear. They just build lemmy. Like beehaw? Blahaj? Those aren’t run or influenced by tankies.
He also asked for the functional differences. Ideology didn’t really seem that relevant
Yeah, I don’t necessarily have to like the people who build the software I use. I don’t like MS or Cisco, but I’ve built a career on their work and I’m fine with that.
Isn’t run by tankies
Not gonna use it then
I’m out of the loop a bit. I know basically what tankies are, but I’m dumb.
Can somebody tow me in to the conflict that I’ve been seeing around between tankies and… Everybody else? Because I find it hard to believe that tankies really are just fascists but for liberal values in the most extreme way. Maybe I don’t totally understand the depths of how it works and the implications, and the issues that liberals but non tankies take with…tank…ie…ism…(?) (Authoritarian left?)
Like maybe people just want liberal values and want it to be more ensured that conservativism can’t be as insidious, but don’t ACTUALLY want to murder and eliminate a bunch of people to do it?
Are there any mature, rational, honest, good faith, and genuine discussions that I can look at or briefly be explained that also won’t start a bunch of conflict in this post?
MaybeJust pm me.
Really dumb question probably, but are piefed communities reachable from lemmy and vice versa?
Look at the account I’m replying to you from :)
Yes, they federate with each other.
Neat! I’ll have to play with it when I get the chance.
How does PieFed differ from Lemmy? At first glance, they seem like similar applications. Does it have any particular strengths or additional features I might want to try out?
There are lots of little usability improvements, and configuration options, but they are functionally very similar.
But it also has the advantage of not being written by the lemmy devs, which is a deal breaker for some folk
Could you please share context on the lemmy devs being a deal breaker?
One of the devs is a transphobe
Political stuff. The devs are also behind lemmygrad, for example.
The web site has a list of differences between Lemmy and PieFed:
- Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default.
- Communities are organized into topics. See https://piefed.social/topics.
- Image-heavy communities can have a tiled/masonry view, like https://piefed.social/c/pics@lemmy.world
- People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
- Hide all posts based on keyword filters.
- Keyboard shortcuts.
- Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.
- Better UI design (somewhat subjective!)
- Improved hotness ranking algorithm (subjective)
- Voting is private.
- See also features for healthy communities.
- Each community has it’s own wiki. Demo
This list isn’t exhaustive; one major feature that’s not listed there is de-duplication, where reposts all get combined into a single post with a split comment section (one for each individual post).
People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
Probably not, because we have downvotes disabled :)
Thank you, I was worried :3
People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
Cool, a women indicator
(The joke is Lemmy is sexist mods please don’t ban me)
You’re correct though.
Anybody who isn’t the ‘default’ cishet able neurotypical white man is marginalised in society and even online, we’re also attacked a lot.
Which is one of the reasons downvotes are disabled here. A policy I hope will carry over to PieFed.
Yeah, though sadly this seems to make people a lot nastier in their comments sometimes, or perhaps they are juat awful to difference anyway. We still agree they should be disabled though as downvotes sound awful and are often used for mere disagreements, or bigotry, in practise.
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is there pie? 🍰💖
I wish there were more apps with piefed support. I like my gestures. Nonetheless, thanks alot fort the instance! Piefed seems great, I’ll be happy to try it out here.
Apparently, your namesake (Interstellar) supports PieFed, but I haven’t been able to log in to Blahaj’s instance with it. It keeps giving me an error saying the API is not enabled.
I’ll just mention, in case it’s not apparent, Interstellar (the app) does support swipe gestures on posts and comments; you just need to enable them in the settings. I do realize the Blahaj PieFed instance hasn’t even enabled the API, so the app wouldn’t work with piefed.blahaj.zone yet.
BTW, I like your username :)
Oh, nice, good to know! Also thanks :)
Oh, never mind, I just saw their comment about the API being enabled, so the app should work with piefed.blahaj.zone.
Yeah, i quite like my lemmy app (even if it is pretty much dead at this point). Eternity UI is very cozy to me.
Is “threadiverse” a thing? It feels like it gives far too much influence to Threads. I’ve never heard the term. “Fediverse” is better, though maybe this is a specific subset of ActivityPub applications?
Threadiverse was a thing before Threads was a thing…
And it specifically refers to the subset of “reddit like” ActivityPub platforms, so it’s more specific than Fediverse. Threadiverse instances are part of the Fediverse too, but they’re quite distinct from Mastodon etc
Is “threadiverse” basically just fediverse (social) platforms that are thread-based (as opposed to, say, blog-based or some other federated type of thing)?
Like, if fediverse & thread conversation, then is threadiverse?
Exactly that!
Fair enough. I’d never heard that term before for some reason, only fediverse.
We discussed it on !fediverse@piefed.social and !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Interesting, never heard of piefed before, been using lemmy for a long time.
Same (well, other than a long time, but I think it’s been over a year at least)
Do you have any thoughts on how the two compare in terms of resource utilization (CPU / RAM) given a similar number of users and activity?
I’ve been curious about this, because Rust, the programming language used for Lemmy, is supposed to be a LOT more CPU/RAM efficient than Python, the language used for Piefed. Python, on the other hand, is supposed to be much faster to initially develop in, which would at least partly explain how Piefed gained so many features so quickly compared to Lemmy.
We don’t have a point of comparison so far, because the instances don’t share the same concurrent user numbers, but it would be hard to beat lemmy, which is really light for the volume it handles.
Ok, thanks! Kind of what I expected both in terms of not being able to compare exactly and Lemmy being light. I appreciate it.
From what I understand (and note that this is unsubstantiated, because we just simply don’t have the same size userbase/activity here), while lemmy is fairly good, piefed is supposedly even better.
The caveat here is of course that over time, software maturity and changes in prioritization of features (sacrificing efficiency for functionality or ease of use usually) results in certain decisions being made that affect the resource requirements.
It happened with lemmy (it used to be way more efficient than it is now), and it will happen to piefed too.
From what I understand (and note that this is unsubstantiated, because we just simply don’t have the same size userbase/activity here), while lemmy is fairly good, piefed is supposedly even better.
Better in terms of lightness? I would be extremely surprised given the vast difference in performance and resource consumption of Python vs. Rust, and because apparently Piefed already has more features than Lemmy does. But maybe I misunderstood your point.
