• Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    The Democrats are the lesser of the two evils. They are more subtle about not really helping the lower-class and fixing the insane amount of poverty in the USA.

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    It’s hard to stand for any principles when you’re bought and paid for by the very people who are currently riding their insanity bus with trump.

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    People assume the Democratic party don’t know what they are doing. They know precisely what they are doing by feigning they don’t know what they are doing.

    The oligarchs really have both parties, and the country in its entirety as a result, by the balls. That is why it is crucial to realise to also protest against oligarchy alongside “No Kings” protest. Trump is only the front and fall guy, it is the oligarchs who are truly in power.

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      The oligarchs really have both parties,

      I made this meme a while ago:

      I am increasingly worried that the Democrat/Republican divide, or the US democracy in general, is mostly a “divide and conquer” scheme. It makes people believe they can choose their country’s path, but actually, both parties agree on essential questions of economics, such as that there are practically no taxes on the rich, that there’s weak social safety nets, and such.

      The differences between the parties are only in the culture, or as i say, in the sexuality, which should be a private issue overall, and it makes for an excellent distraction from economic issues.

      The only thing that politics actually should care about is the socio-economic situation, i.e. how much resources do people have to live.

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      Why do you think the rich love making movies with that trope so much. Or the ones where revolutionaries always end up just as bad as the oppressor they overthrew.

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        revolutionaries always end up just as bad as the oppressor they overthrew

        To be fair, this happens a lot. Not “always” but too often enough.

        Even the American Revolution. So yay, overthrew “British Tyranny”. So you’re gonna free the slaves, right? Right? “Freedom” remember? (Well y’all know the rest of the history)

        Edit: Cherry on top, the UK now has a better healthcare system than the US 🤣

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        Yeah. The MCU is probably the biggest offender. Luckily hardly anyone watches that garbage. There is this thing where people call the movies ‘woke’ but they are not. At least not beyond a surface level anyway (makes it easier to cut out all the gay stuff for violent dictatorships. Plus, most of the heroes belong to a wealthy/noble class while the others are either cops or soldiers.

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          I vaguely remember, compared to DC, Marvel has often been comparatively okay with killing, in part because of the scale of villains they go up against - secret armies of a new world order or space aliens, as opposed to thugs employed by a gangster.

          That does quiet down when they go face to face with a human that wasn’t born with powers, though.

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    Don’t have to go low to tell the fucking truth and call it as it is. They just need to stop pandering and open their fucking mouths.

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    One party acts like it cares about people and the other party doesn’t care about even trying, but they both work for the same people.

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    its actually a UNIPARTY, a coalition party of both sides. because majority of the time they do vote together on some issues but not others.

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    I liked where we were heading with “weird”. We could’ve done better, but it was a step… maybe the only step.

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    Dems don’t need to go low. They need to stop chasing conservative voters.

    The reason they are so timid on everything is because the consultant class has convinced them that if they are just a bit more right wing, they’ll win the next election.

    If Dems fired the consultants and chased the working class, they’d win big time. People hate the Dems because they are corporate captured.

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      Dems don’t need to go low.

      Yeah, they just need to stop taking the high road. The regular road where people are called out held accountable for being terrible is fine, no need to go low.

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      Good ol America where your options are corporate captured, or corporate captured but with slurs and hate speech.

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      It’s either that or many dems are ok with sitting back and acting helpless while they take their lobbying bribes and invest in the markets they regulate. Why change a system that personally benefits them so much?

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      They wouldn’t if we voted for progressives in the primaries. The 15% that shows up for congressional primaries are almost exclusively retirees. They always pick the most conservative Democrat. We should be voting twice every two years, not once every four, for national elections alone.

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        I agree. Everyone should be involved and informed on how to maximize the power of their vote wherever they live. Ideally, you get plugged in with someone like the DSA and vote their endorsements.

        Sadly too many people fall for spoiler candidates which is part of the reason it’s so hard to unseat an incumbent.

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      stop chasing conservative voters. chased the working class,

      Most of the working class is conservative. So…?

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        Which working class are you talking about? Because the working class I know are weed smoking, porn watching, beer drinking dudes who don’t want any of this Christofascist bullshit. It boils down to taxes and guns. Dems need to let these people have their guns and lower taxes for the bottom 50% of the country.

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          It boils down to taxes and guns. Dems need to let these people have their guns and lower taxes for the bottom 50% of the country.

          Ironically, the Republicans are the ones raising their taxes. They’re just too gullible and propagandized to get it through their skulls.

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          The Dems already let them have their guns. The Dems already want to lower taxes on the working class. This isn’t new or news. So I can’t say I agree with your assessment of the important topics.

          What might other important topics be?

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            It’s like the Biden economy thing. The truth doesn’t matter as much as the perception of what is true.

            Make a big deal about dropping gun regulation as a platform and pass a federal bill that blocks do-nothing cosmetic regulations like bans on barrel shrouds, skeleton stocks, and pistol grips for longarms. It doesn’t matter that it won’t make any appreciable difference. The headline will be “Dems loosen gun regulation”.

            Lowering taxes is a bit trickier. People have to feel it. The Child Tax Credit was factually effective, but can anyone name what they bought with that money? I still remember how I spent my Bush tax rebate. Cash in hand is what people understand. Figure out a way to send the average person a check for a couple hundred bucks every year (ideally 6 months from tax rebate season).

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      They’re not even corporate captured, their policy stances are reverse Citizens United and Tax the Rich, they just have shit optics.

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        That’s their tepid messaging, not their platform or general direction of actual actions taken.

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        The faction that wants to do that is a minority even within the Democratic Party.

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          Even without the votes to make it happen without Republicans, the DNC has been introducing the ammendment constantly since the decision was first made.

          If even 7 Republicans had crossed the isle it would have happened already.

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      I haven’t seen this at all, except referenced by many social media posts very similar to your own.

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    “We need the conservatives to keep the conservatives in check!”

    This country needs political literacy and situational understanding, there aren’t two parties.

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        What they meant is that, for the working class, both parties are effectively the same. They both represent the rich, albeit different subsections with slightly differing interests. Sometimes the rich assassinate the rich because some of the rich got in the way of other rich people. They have as much infighting as the left sometimes tbh. Regardless of that though they are both capitalist parties who primarily secure the interests of capitalists. They are the same in that neither of them give a shit about you other than what you can do for them. Which is to say, the illusion of political legitimacy and the wealth you create for them.

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          What they meant is that they’re totally fucking ignorant of the party, ideology, and policy positions of the politician who was assassinated. Get a goddamn clue!

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            Democrats are the party of false platitudes and endless slaughter with a happy face. Their policy is to tell everyone that things are okay while we suffer and die for their profits. I don’t give a shit about the individual politician. They serve the same purpose, and thats keep you stuck in the delusion that they serve you. You will not be handed any choices that matter.

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          Absolutely fucking not! The Republican Party does not get to distance themselves from the assassin; they absolutely own the behavior they incited!

          I don’t give a fuck if the guy held office or not; he was 100% representative of the Party.

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    Especially with this guy getting a couple of 2nd degree charges. And Luigi being labeled a terrorist. Shits fucked yo.

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    “Listen, we’re doing fine. We have two clear paths to victory and they involve completely ignoring progressives. I mean yeah, sure, we could win big time with them but that’s not happening, we’re not letting that happen, stop asking for ice cream we’re going to eat rocks and you’re going to like it. Our two paths to victory are 1: becoming more conservative to get conservative voters or 2: a giant meteor breaks up in the atmosphere and large chunks hit major Republican strongholds. Those are the two realistic paths we’re following. WE’RE GOING TO IGNORE PROGRESSIVES, STOP ASKING!

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    Why would they grow a spine? The people funding them are the same as those funding the people who are fine with this happening.

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      From 2003 to 2010 the DNC managed to heavily restrict campaign finance large sum donations, until the 5 conservative SCOTUS judges overturned it in Citizens United.

      A DNC core platform stance is to undo Citizens United, but it takes 60 senators to update the constitution and there have not been more than 50 in over a decade.

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        Please they might have that on paper, but I promise you if they had a 60 seat majority, they would find two Democrats to vote with the Republicans to defeat it. Hell you have Republicans in the DNC. That’s right many members with D by their names are secretly Republicans. They are plants. Funny thing is the DNC knows it but doesn’t expell them or call it out.

        So no they don’t want to stop taking the money. They just got rid of Hogg and the guy leading the DNC claimed it was because he was hurting his fundraising.

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          Call their fucking bet, then? You have a party of absolute corruption and a party that hasn’t had a chance to do the things they say they will, the choice seems really clear to me.

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            Call their fucking bet, how?

            This is seriously some low effort attempt to cover for democrats or an actual delusion?

            “They’re not doing anything significant, so let’s vote them all in so they can cry and while while doing nothing significant.”

            Actions speak louder than words, popularity stunts are not political actions.

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            Please enlighten us. What does “calling their bet” look like?

            They’re still one of two major parties in a two party system.

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                Democrats HAVE had a chance to do what they promise. Several times. You have to seriously be completely ignorant to recent history if you think all the Democrats need is a majority…

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    As much as i am applied by the behavior and ideas of the Republican GOP… I am disappointed by the lack of any real effort to stop them from the Democrats

    they seem to be afraid of offending them