Morons.

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    Also, I don’t know why so many dickheads talk about “upending” things. It takes a lot to have large complicated working systems.

    Any old asshole (or even something as simple as a virus) can “upend” a system. Why is that a value in itself I will just never understand.

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    I don’t believe that. Anyone dumb enough to vote for trump thinking he would drain the swamp is way too dumb to ever realize he’s been duped.

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      Yeah but the pod cast Bros are waffling a bit and that’s where they get their cues from.

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    Yeah, no they ain’t. They wanted this and they are happy they got this. Everyone is fucking miserable except those pieces of shit.

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      'member when we thought “grab em by the pussy” would definitely do the trick and open some eyes? I… Yeah I totally thought that at the time…

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      I mean it’s not like there was a concrete example of him promising to drain the swamp and shown concrete proof of his results before, how could they have known…

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      Not really an excuse but it’s pretty common to be politically naive when you’re young. When Obama was first elected I just figured we’d immediately solve climate change and all get free healthcare and community college. I didn’t really understand how the political system worked.

      I imagine many of these people thought the same way. And they may have been too young to really follow things during Trump 1.

      So yeah… I wish they had been more savvy but we all gotta learn somehow. I’m willing to forgive if they end up on the right side after this.

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    My peers are not your rich country club conservatives. They are scrappy guys who liked Trump because he wasn’t polished or predictable. To them, he was a rebel outsider who would fight “the swamp” with all he had. I remember heated lunchroom debates where they’d argue about whether or not he could truly upend our system and its backers.

    What a bunch of fucking losers.

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      It’s funny because trump is literally about as much as “the swamp” as you could be. Born with a golden spoon, socialized with only the elites, and personally fucked over working class people literally every chance he has.

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      It is weird because I have a similar scenario, but they voted for Trump because they’re all playing entirely within framed, false choices.

      Like, one coworker voted full R because that’s what they’d always done like their parents and community always had and that was that. Always had, always will. Policy wasn’t even on the board.

      Another went for Trump because they genuine want to see government fail, even as a government worker, because they think the Federal Government is the Evil, and the States are the shining beacon of Freedom.

      Platitudes and messaging strategies meant nothing to them. Or at least it didn’t in 2016 or 2020. I don’t know how they went 2024 since I’d left that job.

      But since then every job site I go onto with active working class labor, its just MAGA hats and bumper stickers… and/or immigrant workers. Usually they’re being set against each other by company owners who enjoy both groups lacking unions and legal protections.

      The system that needs upending is the private company boss, not the government. The bosses are the ‘backers’ that need upending. Government is the last vestige where the public actually has a say.

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      “Predictable” is quite literally the one quality you want the leader of the biggest military on the planet to have.

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    I’m thinking if they saw Trump’s record and still voted for him, this isn’t gonna be the first time they get duped.

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      IMHO, people hyper fixated on the first couple years of Trump 1 where the economy was ok, he had experienced government officials putting up guardrails, and he coasting on what past administrations put in place.

      They thought Trump’s was blowing bow air and they thought they were going to get 2017 again.

      They are not getting 2017.

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          I wouldn’t be surprised if, given the rich disinformation landscape in America, covid was destined to be an utter shit show in the USA.

          Trump sure as shit didn’t help.

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    Weird, they were old enough to remember he didn’t live up to that campaign promise in his first term and just ended up swamping the drain even more. Did they think he was just going to do a total about face on his corruption in his second term?

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    This was all public knowledge before the election.

    But I guess you didn’t hear about that on TikTok and YouTube shorts.

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      Well, depends on the almighty algorithm overlords. People were making Project 2025 PSAs left and right, and I definitely saw some YT shorts talking about the evil shit GOP and Trump would do. Cause I’m blue and YT knows (or at least thinks ) I want to see and agree with that stuff. A Gen-Z who watched Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate all day isn’t gonna get that. I hate and have never used TikTok, but we can make a similar assumption for them. Anyway, I’m more pissed at my friends who sat on their ass and didn’t vote (even after I told them that’s upsetting), who have recently said “I wish I voted.”

      I guess we need to learn how to convince those around us to give a fuck. I wish I was more charasmatic…

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    Duped? Fucking shitbags.

    Nobody was duped, bamboozled, tricked, or swindled into voted for Trump.

    People knew what Trump was about and chose that.

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      For real. The photos and videos with and quotes about Epstein, the interviews with Stern talking about walking into changing rooms, grabbing 'em by the pussy, all this existed outside of the Epstein files.

      He bankrupted business after business but stayed afloat by being a con-man, and red-state suckers flooded his rallies to juice up on his low IQ rhetoric.

      Now he’s filling his vault with cryptoscam cash from his idiot base buying memecoins and third-rate junk watches, so that his insipid sons can continue the family business of groping, scamming and conning. Trump has replaced Reagan as the new face of the GOP and they LOVE it, because they get to say how much they hate immigrants out loud.

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      They’re shirking responsibility. It’s typical. They gloated the whole way about knowing exactly what they’re vote for.

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    Gen Z “men” voted for Trump because they’re racist sexist homophobic pieces of shit like their fathers are.

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        Elder millennial parents pioneered unparenting. They are insufferable and have the shittiest kids. The iPad generation is how I know them.

        Hopefully young men in this country wake up before the wars Republicans always start turn them into casualty statistics.

        Edit: I’m a younger parent than the people I’m bitching about.

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          You can’t even go out to a brewery in my area without a bunch of unparented kiddos running around your feet.

          Some of them even have their fucking birthdays at the brewery. Happy 8th, Stetson! Your first present this year is watching Mommy and Daddy get hammered and have public arguments.

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            Ah yes the alcoholic parent. We pioneered this one ourselves. Quite the accomplishment. Having never seen our parents slam down Natty Ice each day after work, we had no idea what we were getting into.

            Never before in history, had anyone ever chosen to have a drinking problem, and kids simultaneously.

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              I get that you’re being a sarcastic asshole, but birthdays for 5 and 8 year olds at what is basically a pub is definitely a newer thing. Maybe they always had them in ancient Sumeria or some shit, but here in the states it took a while for places like this to even allow children into them.

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              Yeah, comments like the one you are responding to, are ignorant of history. Millennials drink less than previous generations, as Z drinks less than Millennials. Also what we now call unparenting has been a thing for long time. I have read articles discussing not disciplining your child, and believing their natural curiosity will lead them to what they need to be successful, as a concerning trend, from the 19th century. For a much more modern example, the Simpsons did a bit about this decades ago. In a flashback to Ned’s childhood, he is an absolute terror, and his beatnik/hipster parents are talking to a specialist about it, and say “we’ve tried nothing, and we are all out of ideas”. When I was a teen, in the 90s, there was a massive trend of not disciplining, or properly educating, your child because “you will just be killing their creativity”.

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                Every single generation gets accused of creating the worst children ever, and they were just so much better back in the day. It’s quite literally a tale as old as time.

                The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

                • Plato, ~400 BCE
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                  Ah yes the tale as old as time about people throwing their child’s birthday parties at the local microbrewery and having them run around the establishment and play loud video games on iPads.

                  You’re right, there has been millennia of truck dads and wine moms convening for hazy IPAs and taco trucks while not watching their five year old in public.

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                Yeah, comments like the one you are responding to, are ignorant of history.

                Ah yes, the long, storied history of microbreweries and having birthday parties for children at them.

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                  Ah, yes, the birthday at a microbrewery, the place where children are allowed to go undisciplined, and the genesis point of the idea of people not disciplining their kids.

                  Seriously, do you not understand the concept of a single example being used to discuss a broader concept?