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Needs more sniffs and so on but as usual, the man has a point. 😅
The empire were the bad guys
As were the Jedi and the Republic.
Nah. They had plenty of flaws, even purposeful ones buried in all the bad writing, but they were very much NOT the bad guys. Even for all the hilarious failures, the fascist Empire was absolutely “the bad guys” for most of Star Wars.
Your mistake is thinking it has to be good vs bad. Star Wars is bad vs worse.
I think you have a philosophical issue, friend.
There is nothing in reality that is purely “Good.” Everything is flawed or is a compromise or has some kind of selfishness hidden somewhere.
But that’s why we say “Perfect is the enemy of good.” That’s why there’s “Good enough.”
Now, I understand you’ll argue “the republic wasn’t even good!” My point still stands. The empire was a dictatorship. The republic was a representative democracy. It is exceedingly rare that a dictatorship benefits the people. The only example I know of in the modern day is Singapore. (Thailand is complicated.)
At its core, the empire deprives its citizens of their rights. No one can hold the emperor accountable. He can just blow up a whole planet because he feels like it. Yes, you’ll argue the republic can blow up planets, too, but that requires the input of many more people and would represent a significant portion of the populations interests.
Shit, the empire doesn’t even rely on the citizenry for its military force, meaning it’s even more disconnected from the needs of its citizens.
And I think you have a false dichotomy issue, pal.
And what? The Empire uses storm troopers, citizens who have applied. The Republic used clones, babies bred to die in service of the state.
Both are indefensible shit options.
They were all mixed bags that were written poorly, in general (minus a select few productions). Though only a fool would miss the intent of portraying the Jedi as “good but flawed”.
Something doesn’t have to be a perfect ideal to never the less be “good”. To think otherwise is to completely fail to understand the meaning behind, “do not let perfect become the enemy of good”.
Child soldiers and slavery is not good but flawed.
Rethink your moral compass please.
You’re referencing Jedi? Where does the slavery come on?
Child soldiers… I can see that argument, but I don’t agree. Jedi are combat capable, but as I understand, combat is not their purpose or even a core responsibility. That’s just focused on for movies. Jedi are more comparable to monks. They’re focused on connecting with the world, helping people connect with the world, and mediating conflict. The light sabers are supposed to only come out when harm is imminent. Even in the movie, light saber training is portrayed more a method of better connecting with the Force. Now, you could argue that’s propaganda, but I don’t buy that, either. If the person being trained believes violence is a last resort and uses it only as a last resort, then it goes from propaganda to truth. Hell, there are many times where the Jedi try to talk with people in the empire before the pew pew starts.
Just remember, movies wouldn’t sell if they were just Jedi doing conflict resolution. We should be complaining more about the profit incentives for art rather than Empire vs Republic 🤣
I’m referencing the Republic in general, the droids are slaves. Clearly sentient yet physically and emotionally abused by Republicans and Jedi alike, kept in bondage and forced to work their entire life.
Child soldiers are the clones, literal fucking babies bred to die on a battlefield. Their entire childhood stolen from them and brainwashed into being unquestioning killing machines.
But the Jedi themselves are often child soldiers as well, stolen away from their families at a young age to be trained to protect the state as part of a paramilitary religious police.
this is what leads you to disregard harm reduction.
yes, it’s bad vs. worse.
which would you prefer given the choice? oh sure you can talk about abstaining your vote for higher principles, but that simply enables worse.
this isn’t rocket science, either. <gesticulates at the hellscape> this could have been a lot better but NAH you gotta be ideologically pure so here we are.
Neither.
Harm reduction is fighting for a 3rd option.
WHICH ENABLES THE WORST OPTION TO SUCCEED.
You can ignore all the replies saying the same thing. You can sit in your little room and tell yourself that none of these bad things are because of your stupidity, you can tell yourself whatever you want. You gave trump what trump needed to win. Feckless fucking apathy wrapped in “principles”.
Great work. The third option turned out to be WORTHLESS when it comes to saving Gaza, WORTHLESS when it comes to defending women’s rights, lgbtq rights, ENTIRELY WORTHLESS, fucking great work bud, outstanding. You must be proud.
Okay shitlib, keep advocating for harm.
Oh and for future reference I’m not American and Star Wars isn’t set in America either.
Truly the Jedi’s greatest moral failure was defending a ten thousand year old galactic democracy and not killing all of their political enemies as vanguards of the Revolution to enforce their religious and very, very specifically non-economic standards on the population.
This makes them innately evil.
(And for allowing droid slavery)
Mr. Zizek, if you had more time, what would you say?
McSpaghetti!!! Let’s go!!!
“Sir, this is a McDonald’s” when that is very clearly Jollibee.
