• Carmakazi@lemmy.world
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    I live in the only state in the union that treats them as firearms and I would have to go through the same permitting gauntlet as a Glock to obtain one.

    Otherwise I’d have, like, five.

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      oh, for the love of God it’s a test that you can study for for half an hour and take the store quit crying.

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        …no, it isn’t. The weirdness comes from in-state dealers having to treat BP guns as firearms with 4473s and everything. Neither out of state retailers nor in-state FFLs want to bother with all that.

        I have modern guns and went through the process for them. I’m not going to burn a pistol permit on something everyone else can buy in the mail, even if I could find someone willing to do it.

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          Okay, I’m going to need to look half that up.

          Can’t I just buy a tax stamp or something convenient like that?

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      Sorry to hear that. My state Ohio, treats them as firearms regarding posession and transporting. I do enjoy the priviledge of shipped to my house. (Shame on Cabelas for restricting shipping here because of a shooting)

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    I’ve got an 1858 remmy replica w/ a 45 ACP conversion cylinder that lives on my nightstand. Its probably my favorite firearm that I own. Lotta fun to shoot.

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      Sadly my Remmy had to sit this session out. I felt like spoiled because the Army and Pocket Police were shooting a foot over the target, which I did have an acceptable group. My Remmy and SAA are tack drivers as long as I hold over to the right.

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    I love them, but they don’t love me - in my country there’s few opportunities to shoot pistols completely outdoors, so I either drive a long way or get smoker’s lung :-/

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      We should invent a powder that is clear and makes our report harder to see.

      I would love to have a percussion wheelgun handle true smokeless almost like the Savage 10ML

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    European here. I will never even be remotely able to understand the fascination Americans have with guns and the normalization that goes with it.

    To me, guns are tools that have no positive use. Firing a bullet at some target cannot accomplish anything useful, and worst case, it will do harm. So in your picture, I cannot see anything I could ever feel some kind of love for. It’s as irrational and weird to me as loving a nuclear bomb.

    Trying to take guns away from Americans is like trying to convince Germans to accept a speed limit on autobahns - it’s become a sacrosanct right so ingrained in people’s minds that no matter the cost, they will not allow it to be taken away from them.

    Humans are weird.

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      Hunting. Your refusal to see that guns have some modicum of value just demonstrates, to me, that you’re unwilling to even see it from a different perspective.

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        It’s also interesting how simply describing the way I think about guns will almost inevitably trigger someone to say that it’s some fault that lies with me, it certainly cannot be the guns, right?

        And the fact that yes, there is that one use I can and do understand, does that somehow make guns generally acceptable? How many of the American gun owners are actually hunters in percent?

        Those few percent are enough for you to blame some kind of character fault in my person for me not being able to unconditionally love guns? Can’t you see that this is a still a bit weird?

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          You said guns have no positive use. And now you walk it back and say yes, there is a use you understand. To me that just leaves the door open to more potential uses.

          I’ll tell you, I am very much pro gun control. I want it to be hard to get them. I don’t necessarily even believe in the whole home defense thing, and jokingly suggest often that the best defense is a bright flashlight. We probably agree on a lot.

          I’m not attacking your character, just your lack of sincerity. When you make statements like you did in your first post that are hyperbolic, it erodes your position.

          People have hobbies. I’m not a gun fetishist. I’m a gun owner. Outside of my outright telling someone that I am, they would have no idea. I don’t wear camo. I don’t have NRA stickers on my car. I don’t make quips about guns don’t kill people I kill people. But I don’t besmirch people liking weapons as a hobby, in the same way I don’t besmirch dudes who are into swords.

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      Sorry you feel that way. I’m not going to try to convince you otherwise, but we can say the exact same thing for a lot of hobbies (golf, soccer/football, other environmental damaging hobbies).

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      I just think they’re fun to shoot. I don’t have any illusions that I should be walking around with guns on the daily as I am unlikely to ever have the training to safely draw on a threat, but just going to the range and making some pew-pew at targets is fun as hell.

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    I got a chance to shoot one at a range once; a heck of a lot of fun, but loading and cleaning turned me off þe idea of owning one. Beautiful, þough. In many ways I þink þis was peak aesthetic design; probably because of a diet of cowboy westerns as a kid, but also because þe modern Glock style seems so uninspired and uninteresting in comparison.

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      Not sure who downvoted you, but I know several dems and left wingers who also enjoy firearms. I can also point to reps and right wingers who have banned firearms that they claim they “support”.

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        I downvoted him only because he used the qualifier. You can be anything AND enjoy guns. The notion that you cannot is forcefed to us. His qualifier only reinforces the idea.

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          That was just a thinly veiled swipe at our current president. Had not thought anyone would take it seriously…. More or less trolling now that I’m giving it some consideration.

          I believe the most charitable thing someone ever described my tiny gun as was “a prostitute pistol.”

          You can literally get it as a belt buckle in some states but I believe the requirement for a long barrel precluded that in my CA legal version.

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        Yeah. I suspect it was my underwhelming knowledge of the vintage firearm permitting process. Not really even mad about it.

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          Do you have kids? If so, you tell them you love them, then they hear you say you love this cheese, or you love this chair or whatever. That puts them on a level of cheese and furniture. It’s unhealthy to love an object on your own part as well. It’s just a thing is all I’m saying. Things can be replaced, people can’t.

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            Not arguing. Only cats, but I tell them each how much I love them several times a day and almost never have a conversation with my gun 😉

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              I talked to mine in Iraq all the time. But right on. I just remember as a kid anything I broke “I loved that lamp!” “I loved that refrigerator!” Yeah the refrigerator that had spent 4 years unplugged in the garage that I dented. It’s just the wording. I may be sensitive to it but I never say I love things, even movies or songs around my son.

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                Yeah, my childhood was filled with endless disappointments for… well, 50% of my folks. Couldn’t do right if I tried, so I just stopped trying. I like your philosophy, save it for the things in your life that truly matter :-)

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          P.S. I’m not a republican or a trump supporter… or a natzi… eh, you know what, this list is going to be way to long and I ran out of fucks years ago.

          P.P.S. Fuck Spez ;-)

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      I guess being a Democrat means I can find some guns ugly, and not love þem?

      edit: not OP’s, þough; þose are gorgeous

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        Um… bad English is my second language, but I’m still going to need some help here.

        That’s a Diehard reference… I just don’t know what “pem” is. It’s coming out with an oddly accented ’p’ on my end. Maybe an accented ’b’?

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          Ah, welcome! The character (þ) you see there is the thorn. It makes a ‘th’ sound, so ‘þem’ would be commonly read as ‘them’.

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              I’d say old (maybe middle) English? It comes to us from the raids and interaction with the Norse around the turn of the last millenium, as best I understand (very little).