Wtf.
It’s sickening how the far right agenda has been so normalised that the government is pandering to them.
Since when was displaying our national flag “far right”? Ah yes, Hitler was as bad as some bloke flying the Union Flag.
It’s a flag usually assosciated with racist nutjobs. Doesnt have to be, granted, but the usual way of showing national pride and unity is to use the Union Jack.
Replacing the Jack with the England flag telegraphs that unity is not the goal.
Why do Wales and Scotland get to fly their flags then? Because these were countries that England oppressed and occupied. The use of their national flags do of course have racist undertones (usually aimed at the english), but it’s a way of preserving their heritage under a foreign occupier and so we grant them this clemency.
England flying their flag for the same reason does not hold the same merit, unless we’re literally expressing our heritage that was taken away from us… by us. We were a worldwide occupying force for a long time. Maybe we should calm down on the pride, and instead fly the Jack that promotes more unity
Scotland’s not fucking oppressed and occupied. Their nobility bankrupted themselves investing in the doomed Darien project, so they formed the union with England and then went out again doing colonialism properly under the banner of the East India Company and British Empire. They just hate it now because the Empire money is gone and Westminster and London has all the power, which is just the same boat everyone else is in.
Because these were countries that England oppressed and occupied.
LOL no. The act of Union between England and Scotland was very much consensual and the English didn’t oppress the Scottish.
Wales was not a country until recent times. It was only internationally defined as such in 2011. It was always a principality of England.
It’s a flag usually assosciated with racist nutjobs. Doesnt have to be, granted, but the usual way of showing national pride and unity is to use the Union Jack.
Then take it back. Fly it at pride parades, palestine rallies, other protests. It’s everyone’s flag.
Maybe we should calm down on the pride, and instead fly the Jack that promotes more unity
I think people generally fly both. Although I’m not living in England. But when I visited England, I rarely saw St George’s cross by itself. I don’t think at all, except on a Church of England church (Anglican churches in the UK tend to fly their saints flags anyway, like the Church of Ireland typically flies St Patrick’s Saltire or the Union Jack)
LOL no. The act of Union between England and Scotland was very much consensual and the English didn’t oppress the Scottish.
The wars of scottish independence are pretty entrenched in cultural psyche, and Thatcher reignited tensions drastically in the 80s.
Wales was not a country until recent times. It was only internationally defined as such in 2011. It was always a principality of England.
They were not allowed to express their culture until the monarchy showed support, of course there’s resentment
The wars for Scottish independence were centuries before the act of union
As were any sense of the anglo-saxon heritage that english people claim, after the empire spread across the globe and imported its varied subjects
You don’t need to be Anglo Saxon to be English
Racist attacks happen all the time. Also isn’t the first time flags have been raised
You’re either an ignorant fool or trolling.
It’s not really helpful to label people as far right for displaying the national flag of their own country.
Sure son, sure.
I’d rather he’d come out as a nonce than whatever the fuck this is.
Maybe the royals are actually reptilians and they replace anyone dumb enough to be PM
“Always sits in front of a Union Jack” is pretty weird to be honest. I mean, does he have one draped over the back of every chair the house and over the bed’s headboard? Has he had one painted on the underside of the lid of his toilet?
Little known fact about ol’ Keir, but this is what he wears around the house:
Haha, that’s definitely possible.
An alternative is that as he’s always in front of the Union Jack… perhaps he simply has a “special personal assistant” dressed like this, who is always behind him in his home?
Keir: “Bring out the special personal assistant”
Servant: “But the special personal assistant’s sleeping”
Keir: “Well, I guess you’re gonna have to go wake him up now, won’t you?”
Can’t even get an actual union jack on his union jack onesie
My thinking was that he sits facing it, like you would sit in front of the TV. But instead of the tele, he is just staring at red, white and blue like a true patriot.
That’s a good point! For some reason, I didn’t consider that he could be facing it.
The wonderful ambiguity of the English language. Never has caused any issues before I am sure.
Obviously he stands to take a shit, no sitting involved there.
Imagine how the far right and/or football hooligans must feel seeing their preferred symbol of nationalism be linked to somebody as milquetoast as Starmer 🤣
Honestly, though, good for Starmer. None of us need to fly a flag - I think we know what country we’re in??? - but I abhor how the far right try to claim it for themselves, and how then anybody who does fly the flag is immediately linked to those bastards.
“I’ve lost Saint George in the Union Jack, that’s my flag too and I want it back!” - Roots, by Show of Hands.
It’s not the far-right’s preferred symbol of nationalism. It’s our national flag. That’s how I look at it, and we should act as such. Labour displaying the Union Flag was ALWAYS the right choice. It’s better than his disgraceful predecessor refusing to sing the national anthem.
I know you can say “oooh, his policies though, read his policie-”
The average voter doesn’t read the entire manifesto. They just remembered that he was some bloke who wouldn’t even sing the national anthem and got cushy with the IRA.
So the choices in the last election were ethno-nationalism or protest vote, got it
foocking liebour politisan, its called the UNION FLAG when its on land!
Wikipedia: “It is sometimes asserted that the term Union Jack properly refers only to naval usage, but this assertion was dismissed by the Flag Institute in 2013 after historical investigations.”
To continue to explain much too seriously for a shitposting community: a jack in general is a specific type of flag on a ship, specifically the smaller one that flies at the front. It’s traditionally only flown in harbour or at anchor
The British one specifically, though, has history messing things up. It actually pre-dates the Acts of Union (or at least the earlier version of it without the St Patrick’s cross does) by an entire century. Originally it really was a jack, only for maritime usage, and Scotland and England continued to fly their own flags on land. By the time the Acts of Union made it an actual national flag, everyone had been calling that design a jack for their entire lives anyway, so it just stuck. Both the admiralty and parliament confirmed that either term is acceptable for official use in the early 1900s
I saw you helping your uncle jack off a horse, so I did.
Jokes on you he had his home commissioned as a naval vessel
Keir Starmer: seat warmer for Nigel.
Hey nige, come here and let me suck that mushroom cock
Hmm. Maybe he’s trying to normalise and ‘reclaim’ the flag for non-racists. That would be a good thing.
And the Oscar goes to…😑 and morons are clapping 👏
What is “Union” about that Jack?
I mean, if it will stop people voting reform, I don’t see the harm
Come on, no one buys this shit. The people who this is supposed appeal to can see this for the obvious grift it is, no one believes Starmer is being sincere here.
I don’t think Starmer is a closeted racist.
Still hasn’t done much to fix the immigration laws. At least his administration is beginning to talk about it, I guess
Starmer isn’t anything, he has no beliefs other than retaining power for power’s sake. He has one of largest majorities in Parliamentary history and yet he is incapable of influencing the national conversation, only reacting to it.
Still hasn’t done much to fix the immigration laws
What, pray tell, is wrong with them at the moment? Immigration is generally good for the country and with the state of the economy, we need all the good we can get.
What, pray tell, is wrong with them at the moment?
The law is too strict but unenforced. £38k per year for a visa sponsorship is ludicrous outside of London (possibly inside too!). Apparently the government is thinking of reducing graduate visas down from the current 2 years which is an idiotic idea. And worst of all, the fact that a British citizen needs to earn a minimum of £29k per year in order to have a non-citizen spouse enter the country. Technically it’s between the two of them, but it apparently has to be within the UK. Your spouse can’t work without a visa and cannot get a visa without the work. Regardless, there shouldn’t even be a limit. Apparently you can get an exception if it’s “unreasonable” for you to move to their country (really messed up for the home office to tell you, “no, don’t come back to the UK/leave the UK”) but processing that takes a year apparently.
Meanwhile, if you come over in a small boat illegally, you don’t get immediately sent back or elsewhere, even though you were just coming out of france- a safe country.
Under the tories it was just a numbers game. They just wanted to reduce “migration” and trying to get rid of the channel crossers was too expensive and inconvenient. So they instead decided to reduce international students- immigrants who are known for being temporary and also subsidizing our own citizen’s education
