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    “Mental health support” is largely a way for people who are damaged by capitalism and fascism to simply cope with capitalism and fascism. I have personally benefitted greatly from therapy and anti-depressants, it’s saved my life. But it’s only brought me to the stage where I recognize I have to fight capitalism to be happy, rather than living under capitalism.

    The goal of these institutions is to get workers back to work instead of killing themselves and others or more seriously questioning their environment. Beyond that, it alienates people from communities. Instead of talking with your friends and family and neighbors and strangers about your mental health, you pay someone to listen to you. These institutions break down communities by making mental health a commodity, sold by therapists and bought by people struggling under capitalism.

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      Beyond that, it alienates people from communities. Instead of talking with your friends and family and neighbors and strangers about your mental health, you pay someone to listen to you.

      Maybe it’s just that I’ve gotten lucky, but every single decent therapist I’ve ever had has very, very strongly encouraged me to talk to my friends about my problems and form a strong social safety net and work together with others.

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      Ngl talking to my friends, family, etc about my mental health is far more alienating then talking with a therapist. They do not want to hear as much shit as I have

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      What about when you feel so bad that venting constantly to your loved ones will eventually tire them out and alienate them? Everyone has their limits, especially when the one who is constantly offloading their suffering onto you is a loved one. Therapists are good for that purpose imo, they don’t love you and are trained to converse with you effectively about these matters, especially if you are mentally ill (most people who go to therapists are how you describe probably, but there is a chance I would have OCD + BPD even outside capitalism if another trigger like the death of a loved one came to pass)

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      i recall one of the specific differences between the sanders/warren m4a plans was the snake’s exclusion of mental health coverage.

      obviously, the first reason for this was the profession made up a substantial portion of her donor base, but the deeper reason was that the american service economy cannot function if low-wage workers (or unemployed people) are accidentally provided with the same psycho-babble tools to cope with their workplace tensions than the bougies enjoy.

      it’s one thing for the pmc class to rely on therapists to reconcile their alienation and get back to “the grind,” but these tools and strategies ring pretty hollow when dealing with the physical destruction of one’s body on a daily basis to just barely get by. such circumstances would be radicalizing for many people. and i say this as a person who has actually seen some benefits from talky-talks, meds, etc.

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    Sometimes i feel like I’m the only person whose had a positive experience with therapy. A lot of people on here have had such horrifying experiences! meow-hug to all of you. There’s so many shitty people, with shitty agendas out there. I got really lucky and I’m thankful every day for it.

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    Last time I did therapy was 2020, it was a shit show. The therapist got a free ride through life into her cushy job via her therapist mother. She constantly berated me about getting a job (which I was trying to), calling me lazy ect. I complained about the shitty jobs and working conditions I had to endure just to survive. So she decided to use my previous suicide attempt as a weapon against me, and threatened to have me institutionalized for being angry at capitalism. So I pretended to calm down, quit, and got slammed with a $2500 dollar bill for all the sessions. Plus wrote HORRIBLE and degrading things in my medical file including being ‘delusional’.

    This was the ‘best’ therapist experience I had by the way. One wanted to put me on 10 pills and gave me all these diagnoses within 30 minutes of basic conversation. The other was a bourgeois landlord. who ‘wanted to show me how to get rich’.

    So yeah fuck therapists doggirl-thumbsup I’m never putting myself through that again.

    My family, the community around me, and alcohol are my therapist now.

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    I feel like sometimes, people forget capitalism, at a certain point, is all about creating problems and then “solving” them. I mean, we already mostly figured out the solutions to things like food and water scarcity, entertainment, child care, and at minimum 60% of problems human face. With the new era, we aren’t trying to solve problems, not really. We’re trying to solve problems under capitalism, which is a, and forgive my slightly ableist language, a “fool’s errand” - a task that will never be completed so long as the thousands of artificial obstacles exist.

    People talking about medications in the comments, and sure, medicines are good, but they could easily be produced in higher qualities, in larger pallets, in whatver-metrics-you-need-to-measure, because you no longer have Eli and Lilly trying to tell the doctors that they need to do this or that to ensure Goldman Sachs gets their money.

    I would like to believe this post isn’t a critique of solving problems, it’s a critique of the capitalist methodology of forcing artificial scarcity (reducing your mental health when you are continuously deprived of your basic survival needs) and trying to “solve” that artificial scarcity within the framework of the capitalist system. Even if you create super-psychiatry, even if you create super-mega-perfect-psychiatry, you will never create a good psychiatry, and you ask why?

    It’s because of capitalism. The problem is not that many problems exist, because the reason many problems exist is because somebody is forcing them to exist. And it’s capitalism. Maybe I’m mixing up the primary and secondary contradictions a little bit here, but if you remove the systems empowering, upholding, and catering the whims of all these awful, selfish, racist, sexist, transphobic, homophobic, ableist, specialist, any other bigotries I haven’t named, then how can they continue to exist?

    If, in the new socialist society, the bourgeoisie and their reactionary squires don’t have a leg to stand on, then they fall. So, to the hypothetical medicine lover here, it’s not that medicine sucks, it’s that medicine is constrained and beholden to the whims of capitalism. I’d like to think this is a pretty moderate (moderate in terms of socialist / communist ideology) take, but if it isn’t moderate, then please tell me why it isn’t.

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    the Secret

    There are millions of people who unironically believe they can be a millionaire if they just think about it enough. Tangentially there is a masculinity scammer who tells his teenage victims to repeat to themselves “I AM ADONIS, I AM ADONIS, I AM ADONIS” in the mirror every day because this apparently makes you more attractive. Copium for days.

  • ElectroShock therapy

    I had ECT way too many times to count and I left the ward with a document that was something along the lines of treatment not work. I was admitted to another ward and they wanted to repeat the whole thing again.

      • It is usually a sort of last in line treatment with ketamine therapy being a level below and even in ECT/ shock treatment there are two kinds with the more severe kind refered to as double sided ones as the people usually called it (I don’t know the terminology) which is the last option among this last resort. Last time I had it was maybe 4 years back not completely sure. I have severe amnesia of everything around that time and all over the place from getting it but that is common and they told me I will get my memories but that was a lie. My cognitive abilities did too probably but I have a bad experience arguing about it. They do the whole thing under Anasthesia. I just have faint memories about getting anasthesia and being tied to a bed that they moved, a lot of machines to the left and being surrounded by a lot of doctors and they always had this loud music playing and they put an oxygen mask on you while the rest start the process and one of them starts reading numbers on the machine or something and within like 10-15 seconds you pass out but it feels kind of good and then I wake up with severe disorientation and everything is confusing and I can’t talk or walk properly so I am on a wheelchair that they put on an electric car that drives me back to my ward and it takes maybe another 5 hours before anything makes sense and I am not sure but 2 days I think later its the same again. 3 times a week and its this over and over again for months and when people talk about memories from some period in the past and I don’t have faintest memory especially if it is a few years ahead or around the period I got it and I have only changed for the worse.

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    I assume you guys will freak out over criticism of this dear “science” less than reddit-logo but just in case, please read the end notes. No, my use of historical facts (slide 2 pertains most to the 1930s-60s) is not demanding everyone individually stop taking meds or going to therapy.

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      It’s one of those things where Psychiatry could theoretically be a proper discipline, but is instead a state-sponsored regime of quackery to get people to shut up as quickly as possible.

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      Nah this fucking rules. Cant really achieve humanitarian liberation without understanding the multitude of ways oppression is woven into society and the depths to which phobia of anything non “neurotypical” is entrenched. That societal cudgel has been wielded In defense of capital and suppression of “undesirables”, except when convenient to exploit their labor ; and these memes are a “fun” exploration of that thonk-cri

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      Nah, fuck thought doctors. They deserve the smoke. Western society treats them like holy secular priests too. Wouldn’t be so bad if liberals didn’t act they can fix all your problems, probably because they wasted so much time and money on it themselves. One of the most arrogant professions even if they play humble when you meet them. Get the hell out of our heads. You want to help us? Stab an insurance executive and join the vanguard party.

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      You don’t demand that people stop using these services, but you seem to only recognize the most broken and abusive practices that exist or have existed. For anyone who is struggling in this community, being able to discern what providers are safe/empowering and which are not is more useful than what you are offering here.

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        It makes sense to care about immediate utility to practical life. I’m not advising how to live, I’m spreading insight of the way capitalism shapes certain institutions which contribute to its function at the expense of the proletariat.

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    Least not to mention how the American Psychology Association for example, contributed to the CI.A torture program in general and like in Abu Ghraib. Then to go to something else, how psychiatry was used in colonization for example, to quote what Fanon said here

    […]Since 1954 we have drawn the attention of French and international psychiatrists in scientific works to the difficulty of “curing” a colonized subject correctly, in other words making him thoroughly fit into a social environment of the colonial type.

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    Agree with a the overall point, absolutely.

    Tricky though, as I do credit psychiatry with helping me a great deal. The anti-psychotics I’m on probably have saved my life. They aren’t really pleasant, but like, it beats the shit out of the alternative.

    But your quotations are absolutely correct, about them being handed out to merely sedate ‘problematic’ people a lot of the time. Have heard several horror stories from friends who had like, BPD or OCD, and got brain fried when their psychs just pushed various anti-psychotics on them, which like, is fucked up. That ain’t the way to treat that shit. Let alone the rough history of them, as you say.

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      Anti-psychs are a hit or a miss. So long they don’t understand how they work there will be people who credit them with lifting them up from the bottom and others who recount only negative effects. I’m not advocating anyone drop their medication: to survive in a capitalist society you must function in a capitalist society. We don’t know how the abolition of capitalism will change “mental health,” but there is evidence that schizophrenia isn’t a “the worst possible disease” in even every capitalist country. In many places around the world, people experience hallucinations as neutral or pleasant. https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2014/07/voices-culture-luhrmann-071614

      If I may make a spin on Marx’s Contribution to the Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right,

      [Psychological] suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. [Psychology] is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

      The abolition of [psychology] as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of [psychology] is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which [psychology] is the halo.

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        I’ve seen that story go around quite a bit, about schizophrenia, and I must admit that I’m very skeptical of it. Not in the sense of ‘these stories are wrong’, because even in the west, there’s people with schizophrenia that report benign hallucinations and delusions. But I’m skeptical of it scaling, of it being ‘the norm’ to only experience benign hallucinations outside the west.

        I have schizoaffective disorder, and my hallucinations are unpleasant, but like, bearable. Annoyances more than anything else. The two big disruptions for me are the mood disorder (big crossover with bipolar and schizophrenia-spectrum disorders, with some people not knowing that bipolar can cause psychosis on its own), and delusions. Being able to rationally identify and order my hallucinations makes them fairly benign (if distracting), but the difficulties with identifying baseline reality, truth from scattered thinking, is far more of life-ruiner to me, and the interplay of all of those together is where my ability to live my life kinda tumbles out of my hands. Alternatively manic and depressive, while hallucinating and unable to order my thoughts, I feel like it wouldn’t matter if all my hallucinations were the calm voices of my ancestors.

        Regardless, anti-psychotics (Seroquel, in this case) are not a cure to me, but they lessen that burden. Any one of those symptoms is bearable with good habits, a regular schedule, a solid support network, and generally low stress-levels. The pills make the symptoms less frequent and less absolute, lessening the load on the more holistic parts of ‘treatment’ and management. I don’t like the lethargy I get from the anti-psychotics, but it is manageable, while without it, the house of cards is less stable. Manageable, at times, but also prone to collapse, and hard to rebuild from that collapse, y’know? And like, a lack of stress, the grace of time and peace to build networks and stability, is the best single treatment I have. If I had to pick one or the other, between low-stress and anti-psychotics, its low stress, every time. But that’s hard to prescribe, hard to just say “well, stop being stressed!”. The destruction of capitalism sure would help there, but also, its nice to not have to pick one or the other, when I can aim for having both.

        Which, none of the above is hard disagreeing with anything you’ve said. I think the overall criticism of psychiatry is absolutely correct. I think the blanket pushing of anti-psychotics as a ‘cure for what ails you’ is incorrect.

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    I hate practicing psychiatrists more than the science itself tbh, many medications are really useful for those who need them but even “good” doctors don’t know about interactions between the meds, gloss over side effects that you might experience etc

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    “Masturbatory insanity” is one the of the most diagnosed and treated “mental illnesses” in history. An easy label to slap on “undesirable” people.

    Henry Maudsley, founder of British psychiatry:“[t]he sooner [the masturbator] sinks to his degraded rest, the better for the world which is well rid of him.”

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    From the earliest experimentations with ECT, it appears that psychiatry was quite aware that electroshock resulted in brain trauma, generally feeling that this was no bad thing. ECT-inflicted patients were observed as experiencing amnesia, being disorientated, lethargic, and apathetic; some noted that their whole intellect was lowered by the “treatment” (Whitaker 2010b: 98). This was all seen as helpful for the patient, for as one physician (cited in Whitaker 2010b: 99) noted, “the greater the damage [to the brain], the more likely the remission of psychotic symptoms.”

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    Freeman eventually became frustrated with the amount of time the Moniz-designed brain-drilling operations took and his reliance on an assistant to anesthetise the patient. Instead he devised a simpler, cheaper and less time-consuming operation which he boasted could be done in 20 minutes (Whitaker 2010b : 133). Th e procedure required no anaes- thetic—instead he used three successive shocks of ECT to pacify the patient—and could be administered by any psychiatrist after only a few hours of training. Freeman’s infamous “transorbital lobotomy” innova- tion has been described by Whitaker ( 2010b : 133) as follows:

    “Freeman attacked the frontal lobes through the eye sockets. He would use an ice pick to poke a hole in the bony orbit above each eye and then insert it seven centimeters deep into the brain. At that point, he would move behind the patient’s head and pull up on the ice pick to destroy the frontal- lobe nerve fibers.”

    Freeman (cited in Whitaker 2010b : 133) even felt it unnecessary to ster- ilise the ice pick and thereby “waste time with that ‘germ crap.’” Consequently, Burstow ( 2015 : 53) notes that Freeman’s innovation further increased medical interest in the procedure, due to its ability to maximise “doctor’s profi ts, [reduce] hospital expenses, and dramatically [increase] the number ‘served.’” Th anks to the claims of high “curability” attributed to the transorbital lobotomy by the media and medical jour- nals at the time, over 20,000 social deviants in America alone were lobot- omised in the 1950s (Whitaker 2010b : 132). Research articles followed the lobotomists’ claims in suggesting that the procedure was a painless, minor, low-risk operation which brought about signifi cant improvement in the patient’s behaviour. Over time, however, it became clear that what this implied was that the lobotomy made the inmate more manageable for hospital staff .

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    Contrary to psychiatric mythology, the introduction of chlorpromazine to the mental health system happened by accident rather than design, the term “antipsychotic” being later added by pharmaceutical companies to more eff ectively market the drug to institutional psychiatry and state authorities. Hypothesised as a benefi cial anaesthetic for major operations, the drug was originally used by Henri Laborit, a French naval surgeon, for its antihistaminic properties in 1949. Th e surgeon (cited in Whitaker 2010a : 48) noted that the results of the drug appeared positive in that the patient “felt no pain, no anxiety, and often did not remember his opera- tion.” Th us, Laborit felt chlorpromazine off ered a potential improvement on barbiturates and morphine, popularly used as pre-operation anaes- thetics at the time. At a medical conference in 1951, he further stated that the drug appeared to produce “a veritable medicinal lobotomy,” and for this reason might also be of use to psychiatry (Laborit, cited in Whitaker 2010a : 49). Th e following year, Jean Delay and Pierre Deniker, two prominent French psychiatrists, put the drug to the test on patients they had labelled as “psychotic” at St. Anne’s Hospital in Paris (Whitaker 2010a : 49–50). Th e fi rst patient to be given the drug was a 57-year-old male labourer who had been admitted for “making improvised political speeches in cafes, becoming involved in fi ghts with strangers, and for … walking around the street with a pot of fl owers on his head preaching his love of liberty” (Delay, cited in Shorter 1997 : 250). After three weeks of chlorpromazine the psychiatrists discharged the patient, observing a new calmness within him. Th e authorities were impressed with the results of the drug on the asylum population; while still conscious and responsive to the ward staff , the inmates were much more subdued and quiet. As with ECT and pre-frontal lobotomy, the drug produced a more manageable and compliant patient. Th e psychiatrists wrote triumphantly of the chlor- promazine-drugged patient in 1952 that “he rarely takes the initiative of asking a question” and, further, “does not express his preoccupations, desires, or preference” (Delay and Deniker, cited in Whitaker 2010a : 50).

    As a quick and cheap substitute for lobotomy, the drug quickly became popular across asylums in Europe. Hans Lehmann, the physician who is often cited as responsible for the introduction of chlorpromazine to North America, admitted he was intrigued by the claim of the research papers and drugs marketing literature that the drug acted “like a chemical lobotomy” (Shorter 1997 : 252). After the implementation of the drug regimen at his Verdun Hospital in Montreal, Lehmann felt chlorproma- zine achieved roughly the same results as insulin treatment and ECT but was an improvement on psychosurgery (of which he was an avid supporter) (Moncrieff 2009 : 45). Th e drug, announced Lehmann, was most useful in managing the psychiatric patient in that it produced an “emotional indifference” in the inmate (cited in Breggin 1991 : 55). As Breggin ( 1991 : 55) notes, chlorpromazine was not conceptualised by the profession and business promoters as a cure for mental illness or even an alleviator of symptoms, but rather a pacifi er of one’s character. “We have to remember,” stated the psychiatrist E. H. Parsons (cited in Whitaker 2010a : 50–51) in 1955, “that we are not treating diseases with this drug … We are using a neuropharmacologic agent to produce a specific effect.

    — the book of the post title, Psychiatric hegemony by Bruce MZ Cohen

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    The most popular offer of psychology ultimately consists of advising people in how to deal with themselves and helping them when they come into difficulties in the process.

    Counter-argument: Just ask yourself, in what is one helped. One could notice that the philanthropy of these offers to care by psychological practice feed off the same prejudice that already distinguishes its diagnoses: if somebody or something fails, this is what you are and it lies within you – and I want to help you at this! This diagnosis is already fixed before the client has entered the practice, because the psychologist always applies it. And that is to say, he promises help for a “failure,” completely beyond any examination of what he may fail at and why. Whether somebody was fired, sits in jail or their sweetheart ran away: a therapist regards all these incidents from the start as givens which his client must be able to get along with. The only thing that interests him in his “cases” is that they must dutifully deal with themselves. Whether a special “case” has become the victim of a hostile interest, has perhaps made a mistake in the pursuit of his own interest, disgraces himself by the moral standards that apply in this society, or whatever – the psychologist cannot evaluate and expressly does not want to judge, let alone criticize.

    The people cared for by him should turn exclusively toward the question whether their attitude towards their problems is correct – and the clients also obviously have to expect no other “understanding.” And when is the attitude “correct“? If people are not thrown off track by an incident which damages or troubles them or produces discontent! A psychological consultation never promises those seeking help that it will be or can be helpful in removing the occasion and/or reason for a problem, but rather always only helps one position oneself differently towards it. A completely instrumental use of the mind is thus advised every time: simply look at the issue in such a way that it does not disturb you! In plain English: Don’t worry, be happy. If you have fallen on your face in this harsh world – you may not allow this to damage your self-confidence, that is the essential thing; if you have no success in the jungle of competition – reflect on the fact that you just have other, higher qualities …

    The tips from psychologists therefore all go like this: here a dash more “self-confidence and self-esteem,” there a pinch more “motivation,” here a little less “concern for appearances” – in every life situation there is a matching, because functional, attitude for the mind, and the person is then “psychologically healthy,” and the doctor of the psyche is pleased. Giving people more self-confidence – this success is not to be denied to psychological help.

    And a public which is recruited from all sectors of this capitalist society thankfully takes notice and calls upon their services. Admittedly, less the unemployed and the welfare recipients than the enforcers in matters of preparation for the professional future – teachers, managers, and politicians. All participants in psychological help are more or less successfully supervised in coping with their problems. And they are richly provided with clientele. Like we said, a very functional arrangement which psychology pursues as a practice and founds as a science …

    https://www.ruthlesscriticism.com/gegenpsych.htm

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          Sure, and they believe that agitation (to THEIR correct way of thinking, breaking down ideology through STRONG ARGUMENTS and promoting the advancement of self-interests) is the absolutely only way to… do nothing. Because all you need is to advance scientific debate and promote reason and the enlightenment, so it doesn’t really matter if there is any result in their agitation, be it socialism or not.

          It’s an intellectual ultraleft (actual, not in the insult sense) circlejerk of absolutely insufferable people who want to be 18th century enlightenment thinkers. Because clearly, if you don’t agree completely with their argument, you simply don’t understand it enough yet, and have to keep debating.

          Eventually, GSP supporters either burn out / are thrown out by the group like someone like Renate Dillmann or base basically all their political knowledge from reading GSP publications and discuss them with each other to write more GSP stuff.

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            You’re not wrong they don’t do that much, but it would be really nice if these critiques could actually inform people who do praxis. There are real errors our movements which they identify.

            If you read the important Marxist literature too and engage in reality they are correct that their critiques hold up better than others.

            For example, the usual ultra left “not real socialism” circlejerk is surpassed by the criticizing the content of people’s words and actions instead of holding them up to an ideal standard. I found their articles on antifascist liberal collaboration unusually hard hitting.

            Their critiques attract superfans for a reason, they just ought to be better taken up. You can understand it much faster than the usual “reinventions.” Also much better than piles of Hegel or historical minutiae defending Stalin.

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              They dislike Praxis. Really, ALL you need to do is argue with people. If you reach a critical mass of people, capitalism MIGHT fall apart by itself. That’s really ALL they believe in (and you can recognize them by this exact enounciation I’m using rn) - so there is literally 0 reason for doing anything beyond posting. Praxis is thus seen as useless at best, damaging at worst.

              “Destructive Criticism” is what they call it. Basically everyone who isn’t entirely on the GSP line is an enemy, someone to combat and convince, even internally. And the GSP line is always correct.

              They’d scorn at this characterization, because it gives them an attribute, instead of examining the exact content (which I do have little specific to say against - I am undoubtedly influenced by my time reading their stuff and listening to the lectures with shitty audio), but it’s the cult version of a left communism.

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                People who spend their time reading and thinking tend to think that’s the most important activity. Since Plato, we’ve known this.

                There are many more equivalent or greater organizations of ML or Maoist bent. The difference is that they think it’s “critically supporting AES” or “thinking dialectically” that are the miracle solution for dissatisfaction with the left. For example, RedSails thinks all three are the key to mass popularity. Going to activist-rallies and handing out pamphlets isn’t much better than giving lectures. Every worker must learn that Trotsky was a punk ass bitch and exactly why Hegel was 99% right!

                I don’t think mass popularity of strong critique is the key to revolution, but I’m certain there are elements of rhetoric, communication, and action that hold us back and deserve criticism.

                Call me an entryist, but I think people should organize where they can, wielding critiques that matter to “spread class consciousness.”

                You don’t have to join a tiny reading circle to be informed by their strongest messages. You don’t have to be a theorist to use theory as a weapon.

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      The history of the psy-professions’ pathologisation and abuse of women for being women is deeply disturbing and should shame even the most ardent supporters of the mental health experts. In the name of science and progress, the mental health system has sought to con- trol almost all aspects of women’s experiences, emotions, and behaviour through physical and moral interventions. Chesler ( 2005 : 218) notes, for example, that many women were incarcerated in asylums for mak- ing claims of sexual abuse against their family, mothering “illegitimate” children, or for “suspected lesbianism.” Further, Masson ( 1986 ) com- piled a collection of highly authoritative psychiatric articles on women from the nineteenth century to vividly demonstrate that acts of physical constraint,removed, torture, and female castration by the profession were all justifi ed as appropriate (if not mandatory) treatment for women who questioned or defi ed their place in Victorian society. Th e discussion in this chapter, however, is concerned specifi cally with explaining the central reasons for previous female oppression by the psy-professions as well as the continuation and expansion in neoliberal society of what Ehrenreich and English ( 2011 ) have called the “sexist ideology” of medical profes- sionals. As none of the mental disorders in the DSM with which women have been labelled have validity (Chap. 1 ), psychiatric interventions can- not be argued to be concerned with the care and treatment of any real distress that women may experience. Instead, we need to understand such institutional interventions within the broader context of structural gender inequalities in capitalist society. As Penfold and Walker ( 1983 : vi) have summated, “[p]sychiatry is an institution in a society in which women are oppressed [and it] plays a specifi c role in that oppression.” A critical understanding of psychiatry’s focus on women, gender roles, and deviance can only be fully understood through a thorough assessment of the structural determinants of the division of labour in capitalist society which has devalued female roles and confi ned women to the status of second-class citizens. Th is analysis necessitates an investigation of patri- archal forms of domination and the intersectionality with the relations of production—something that has concerned a host of critical feminist scholars since the advent of second wave feminism in the late 1960s. My argument here is that while an examination of the psychiatric profession clearly demonstrates that it continues to be an institution of patriarchal power, the distinctive form that structures this oppression is determined by the needs of capital (such as the requirement for paid and unpaid labour, the reproduction of the labour force, the necessity to suppress working-class resistance, and the normalisation of gender roles in indus- trial society as “natural,” equitable, and common sense). Th us, the critical analysis outlined here follows in the spirit of Donna Haraway ( 1978 : 25) who has succinctly argued that “[t]he biosocial sciences have not simply been sexist mirrors of our own social world. Th ey have also been tools in the reproduction of that world, both in supplying legitimating ideologies and in enhancing material power.”

      The section that follows discusses how the traditional family struc- ture of agrarian society was fundamentally disrupted by industrialisation and eventuated in the gendered division of labour that demarcated the “private” and “public” spheres of life which, in a slightly adapted form, remain today. Psychiatrists become increasingly important throughout the industrial period as initially incarcerators of deviant working-class women and then as moral enforcers of gender roles, “respectable feminin- ity,” and the sanctity of the family. In this way, the institution of psychia- try takes over the moral role previously performed by religion in feudal society. This socio-historical analysis is followed by specific case studies on the diagnoses of hysteria and borderline personality disorder (BPD) to illustrate in detail how psychiatric hegemony serves to regulate prescribed gender roles in capitalist society.

      See chapter six of Cohen’s Psychiatric Hegemony.

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        The difference is that New Thought is a reaction to (and “treatment” of?) Calvinism, encouraging compulsive suppression of negative feelings instead of positive ones. In the 1850s there was an epidemic of “nuerasthenia” which Phineas Quimby, the eclectic founder of New Thought, determined was a result of the negative thinking of Calvinism. Thus, it could be solved by his good vibes and positive thinking. Apparently, William James, the founder of American psychology was like “it’s popular so it probably works. I love being an American.”

        It seems that, whereas Calvinism served the early development of capitalism (as Weber famously claimed), positive thinking serves well as superstructure for the atomized neoliberal [proletarian] “consumer.” The locus of each problem is in the negative thoughts of the victim.

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        Positive thinking was especially popular in the 00’s, encouraging average people to build risky debt and mortgage houses, and leading to irrationalism among business people: keep being optimistic and the growth will never stop. If you bring down the vibe with skepticism, you’re fired. Ehrenreich also finds this played a role in the dot com bubble and invasion of Iraq.

        Obviously it was a crisis of capitalism—such things can never be staved off perpetually—but it is interesting to examine the role of the capitalist superstructure.

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        Barbara Ehrenreich, whose book Bright-sided is the source for the latter three, got breast cancer and hated endless vibemongering toxic positivity and phony science backing the idea that constant work to think positively is necessary to survive cancer. Quite an interesting read. I hate bourgeois ideology more with each book.