cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/53035758

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A digital drawing of an outstretched relaxed arm/hand with a microphone mid-fall below it, and spurts of blood in the background. Between the arm and microphone is graffiti style text which reads “silence of a fascist”. The drawing was made over top of a screenshot of Charlie Kirk’s death

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      3 days ago

      Kirk was a libertarian in the same way that he was pro-life: in the limited circumstances where it served the agenda of him and his fellow fascists.

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        I wouldn’t know how to contradict you, he talked about freedom a lot and that’s why i called him a libertarian, but contrary to Ron Paul, he was against the freedom of : aborting, using drugs, free immigration, being gay or trans(, or at least with the same rights), searching/teaching “woke” subjects(, gender studies, critical race theory, …).
        He favored wars, and security-state arguments, so wouldn’t have opposed mass surveillance.

        You’re right, he was only a partial libertarian, that is to say, i think, that he wasn’t a real libertarian, thanks for your correction.
        He was only 31. Of course many more people died an avoidable&unjust death in the last 24h, and there are still so much hate from everywhere, imperfections give us a purpose i guess.


        Even if the rules are rigged since the rich are buying mass medias, i won’t ever support killing ideological opponents, obviously, there’s not enough ideological diversity i.m.h.o., and i don’t like having the same set of rules/ideas on a national or even continental level :

        • I don’t believe that abortions are murders, foetuses never met anyone nor have any memories, if any consciousness at all. At the risk of shocking i believe that killing an insect is worse because at least i have no doubts on their consciousness, ideally we should refrain from abortion, although having an unwanted baby can ruin both the parents/mother’s life and her child’s childhood, births should be desired. If abortions “only” murder a potential, then preventing it “murders” the potential of the other child that’d be born in replacement(, and ok, i’ll agree with the Church that it’s not an easy topic, it’s just that no-one has in-utero memories). But i want some cities to ban abortions, while others allow them. I also understand why people thinking that it’s a murder would consider themselves libertarian despite being against it.

        • I believe that some illegal drugs make you develop an addiction without giving you much in return, and are taken by people already lost in their lives, while other drugs are wonderful and transform you into hippies, and yet other drugs enhances your performances, and there are still a lot of research to find the most useful drugs. But i want cities banning all of them, and others allowing even the worst ones, and understand why people thinking that all drugs will lead you to a criminal life as a homeless addict desperate for h.er.is next fix would consider themselves libertarian while wanting to preserve their citizens from such poison.

        • I could see a problem with immigration in the sense that if more than 90% of french citizens is replaced by, e.g., algerian people, then the policy of our country would most likely change, and we’d feel closer to arab history. Just like polish/italian/spanish/portuguese/… immigrants weren’t a problem since we’re all european now, perhaps that an alliance with our glorious islamic sisters&brothers is the european future, and the same goes for the u.s. with hispanic people, or not, in any case we can’t continue to offer ten times the minimum salary from one country to the other, it’s clearly selfish&unjust. But i want cities to have free borders while other closes them, and understand that some people look at the fertility rates of white people and feel that if the u.s. is mostly black and hispanic then it’d be as if North America’s colonization had been for naught, so they’re libertarian but can’t allow immigration because of its threatening scale.

        • I don’t see a problem with other people be(com)ing gay or trans, and even if it was a problem then it’s their problem, not mine. But i want cities banning straight and cis people, and others banning gays and trans, and understand why some people look at the statistics and fear that, i.d.k., that the percentage will climb to 50%, or even 80% and more ? And even so then what would be the problem ? I don’t really understand t.b.h.

        • I don’t see a problem with teaching critical race theory or gender studies, how would that destroy our country ? I’m ashamed not to have listened to Charlie Kirk more, i live in a bubble.

        • Mass surveillance and censorship will come, despite D.Trump and E.Musk honest efforts. The problem is that the bourgeoisie will want to protect itself from socialist ideology(, or even without it they’d still desire to prevent internal revolts), and will hence resort to more censorship/control against China’s rise, that’s a bipartisan policy.
          Perhaps that androids will make capitalist-owned states believe in some kind of utopia for all(, preventing the cause of revolts in a post-scarcity society for the whole world, without any more wars or desires of hegemony), it’s never lost in advance i suppose.
          Still awful that the only country who didn’t listen to our advice is the one with the best economic growth(, Cuba, Nicaragua, or Venezuela are under sanctions), i sincerely hope that we’re not knowingly keeping most countries poorer/exploited by advices/‘economic theories’ allowing us to maintain an advantage.

        What a lame edit, i don’t see D.Trump as worse than J.Biden, they’re both anti-communists, but at least D.Trump favors free speech.


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