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Tormato [none/use name]@hexbear.net to politics@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 个月前

Uncle Thomas quoted in Zohran's latest speech

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Uncle Thomas quoted in Zohran's latest speech

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Tormato [none/use name]@hexbear.net to politics@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 个月前
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https://x.com/nycDSA/status/1978144314526957945

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  • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Off the penjamin, I’m afraid. The point of people like Zohran should be to elucidate to the masses the limits of bourgeois democracy. People should be revitalized in their pursuit of real, revolutionary change, not reassured that they can somehow get what they need by voting in their own Zohrans. You won’t get them! And even if you did, by chance, you won’t fix your problems that way (Allende’s fate should confirm that)

    • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Yeah anything from a politician that isn’t “you need to get up and organize your coworkers and neighbors if you want even ten percent of my platform” is opportunism at best

      • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.net
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        If you want collectivism, do a rugged individualism and pull yourself up by the bootstraps

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Dem entryism isn’t collectivism either.

          • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.net
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            The comment was tongue in cheek, not a retort.

            But I’m not sure why you think I’m a dem entryist

            • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              Sorry, I just took it as a retort. I don’t think that now, I just thought my position was being dismissed as rugged individualism with red paint.

              • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.net
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                My bad, that’s not what I meant

          • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            I dont think that’s what he was saying.

        • LeninWeave [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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          If you want collectivism, do a rugged individualism and pull yourself up by the bootstraps

          That user:

          Popular programs will not be allowed by the establishment, that’s why we need a labor movement to compel concessions using strikes as leverage.

          You, apparently:

          This is rugged individualism.

          I’m seriously confused. It’s possible your comment was ironic and I’m misreading it.

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            I think it’s an ironic restating of the position the previous person was presenting, but not necessarily contradictory

            • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.net
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              Yeah, this.

  • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    “Cloning the good/smart people” is the end stage of all great man theorists

  • mistermodal@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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    He tried to pass off Sankara’s words out of context as demsucc word salad! I can’t take it anymore.

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