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No, no they don’t all concur. The right don’t want consequences for the pedophile class. In fact, they want to be ruled by them.
Patience brother. They are slow.
All my homies hate capital punishment.
Let them rot in prison.
The execution currently being wrongfully attributed to Luigi Mangione changed my view—as has the glorious 10th of September, when Charlie Kirk got Charlie Kirk’d.
I realized that, empirically, I am pro-death penalty in some cases.
Maybe another way to put it: do you believe in self defense? Maybe not “castle doctrine” or “your ground” but what about cases of war? If killing Nazis and Imperial Japanese soldiers in a war of defense (WWII) is okay, what about self-defense against the billionaires during a class war? It’s no accident the Epstein associates are all “elites.” This is part of the class war and their exercise of power over us.
Exiling corrupt kings/elites instead of executing them is literally a function of how the elites have maintained their power through the centuries.
The Epstein files are our best hope at unifying Americans against the neo-liberal DNC and the neo-facsist GOP.
The last few years have changed my mind on capital punishment. If the rich and corrupt rig the system to completely avoid all punishment for their crimes against millions, the guillotine is justice. With great power comes great responsibility, and abandoning that responsibility for personal gain at the expense of the lives of thousands of other people should result in the most severe punishment possible.
and abandoning that responsibility for personal gain at the expense of the lives of thousands of other people should result in the most severe punishment possible.
Why? What purpose does that serve?
Self-defence. They’ve harmed us all once, they will strive to do it again, and they cannot be rehabilitated. They could never be trusted to rejoin society, or even to socialize among themselves. Given the remaining alternative of perpetual solitary confinement execution would actually likely be more humane.
Fully divesting them from their ability to avoid justice via power and money.
If you’re in a position to livestream a mass execution, they have no more power.
Eh, ghislane maxwell has been in custody for years at this point, but is probably going to skate because she is owed favors for her silence from people in power.
I used to think exactly like you, but between Epstein and the panama papers, the rich and powerful have shown that they are too well connected, dangerous, and have corrupted the justice system to such a point that the only way to guarantee justice is for them to not exist anymore.
Either our courts execute them or they will undermine our courts and we will have to violently overthrow them.
Punishments should fit the crime. I agree Capital Punishment is excessive for the vast majority of crimes committed.
The Epstein class is a very small number of extremely powerful people who are actively building a world where capital punishment, be it judicial, extra judical, or a sex crime… is permitted so long as you are part of the wealthy elites.
Agreed but this is just another “Tolerance Paradox”
It’s really not though. Tolerance is what we are currently doing: Not arresting and convicting them according to existing law. Justice should be universal and consistent, not special case after special case. I don’t want to live in a world where powerful people can sexually assault me without consequence, or where I can be murdered by the state for breaking it’s laws. I want restorative justice, I want anyone who is at risk of harming others separated safely from society until they are not, and I want both of these things consistently and without exception.
You mean our for-profit prisons owned by wealthy CEOs that would absolutely love the opportunity to brown nose by putting the rich pedophiles in low-security prisons for a couple months and then letting them out on “good behavior?” If we tear down the system we can build correctional facilities that actually serve their purpose, but for now they’re nothing more than a tool for the very people we’re organizing against. We need to dispose of them - it’s their own fault we don’t have a viable alternative anyway.
Lol clearly the right doesn’t concur.
Patience brother. They are slow. But the cracks are very much forming.
I’m still against the death penalty.
Me to. I’m just against global pedophilia more.
Also IMO Executing Corrupt Elites who operate above the law is entirely different from Capital Punishment as a tool of oppression against the working class.
If you would support citizens violently overthrowing a dictatorship than you also have to support a judicial solution that only harms those responsible.
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Last I checked the right, as a whole, were still onboard with the Pedo-In-Chief. So you can go ahead and remove them from this meme. You’re giving them credit they aren’t due.
Half of the right wing in America votes Democrat.
Patience brother. They are slow after all.
I think life imprisonment and death are essentially the same punishment, with the caveat that you can release a wrongfully imprisoned man but you cannot un-execute someone.
Executions and vigilante justice are for failing and failed states where the odds of seeing justice though more civilized means are remote to nonexistent, often through their own capture of the system. If you have the power to do so, imprisonment is always preferable.
Exiling elites insead of executing them is literally a function of how the elites have maintained their power through the centuries.
Executing corrupt elites who operate above the law is entirely different than capital punishment as a tool of oppression against the working class.
The damage these people have done requires both their amputation from humanity and a clear message to everyone else in power.
I want to cook these motherfuckers as much as anyone. But if there is universal political motivation, then maybe the best use of it would be policies and international agreements to aggressively pursue sophisticated and connected abusers of children.
These files have exposed society wide failures of indifference, corruption, and tolerance for rank criminality. If after all that we’ve learned, kids aren’t made to be safer, then we’ve failed again.
Well said
I vote we put them all on the island and leave them there by themselves, no one else in or out.
As long as you mean the Marshall Island(s)
I don’t think the right agrees at all. They’re still solidly behind Trump
I do not think that live-streaming executions will make our society any healthier.
We’re not even sure that Epstein is really dead.
I want to put them on an island loaded with cameras and watch them Big Brother style.
Oh and the island can’t receive any supplies, there are enough supplies hauled in at the beginning to have everyone live safely for 20 years. Which means all but 3 are dead within a year.
I wish there was actual consensus on that. But far too many are willing to bend over backwards for ‘their’ pedophiles.
These positions don’t mean anything anymore (if they ever did besides referring to people in French courtrooms), and MAGA evidently doesn’t care so no, “we” are not all in agreement, sadly.
The reality is that, just like the murderous rapists in power before, nothing will fundamentally change for the better after these revelations.
Sure, but what’s with the kings shit? The country was created 250 years ago with the notion that there will be no kings to rule it.
Not my meme format. By all means make a different one!
