text translation: C’est clairement du fascisme
They share no similarities apart from being border patrol agencies, which checks notes literally every country in the world has.
frontex largely is there to attack and hinder rescue operations in the Mediterranean and do mostly pushbacks, which are illegal, against human rights and often deadly.
they are known to use excessive violence.
they have next to no accountability, it’s not even clear under which countries law they fall.
their “legal basis” isn’t a law but just contract that the EU has with itself
That does not make it fascist though.
well it’s illegitimate, with no accountability, over the top violent and against brown people, kinda like ICE
The point is not whether it’s “kinda like ICE”. You frame the EU as fascist and Frontex as a fascist organisation, and neither is true.
Read up on definitions. And don’t post memes in communities that explicitly rule out memes as wanted content.
their “legal basis” isn’t a law but just contract that the EU has with itself
soooo…
like any international treaty?
like human rights are?
They do. It is a fact that FRONTEX drives near small refugee boats to create waves and bring those boats to capsize or be swept of course away from europe
The person that is okay with Frontex and what and how they do it, AND still thinks theymself of being inline with EU values, i would like to meet.
No, not fascist. Xenophobic, definitely. Racist, sure. Even dehumanizing mass murder. But fascism has many more defining characteristics that are not met in Europe. For example, one of the most important characteristics are cult like efforts towards a nationalistic unity and strength, as well as a purity cult (as in racial or national purity, not sexual abstinence).
Frontex could be an indicator of a fascistoid regime (like ICE is in the US), but itself it isn’t evidence of Europe being fascist, nor is Frontex a fascist organisation (the first being true for ICE, the second would need more information to evaluate).
Also, this community is not for memes.
p.s.: the US shows additional characteristics of a fascist regime though, like a Führer-cult, purity culture, etc. The US is not a fascist state yet, but Trump’s government and the MAGA-movement are pushing it further towards that kind of regime every day.
The most important trait in fascism according to political science is the tale of “nation was great and naturally better than every other nation, but the influence of [insert jews, people of color, any marginalized group you want to get rid of] made the nation weak. Now we need to “get rid of” [i.e. kill, but we start by calling it remigrate or something] said group in order to be the greatest nation ever™ again.”
That defines fascism. While Europe (as in EU) lacks the identifying unity for EU fascism, the far-right parties, which seem to take over in many member states, all are riding that story.
First, neither Europe nor the EU is a nation. Second, while the far right is getting stronger in european countries, they are governing maybe two or three countries. And third, while an important characteristic, that tale is not the only defining characteristic.
The US and the EU are abso-fucking-lutely not even close to the same degree of fascist.
And third, while an important characteristic, that tale is not the only defining characteristic.
No, it’s not the only one. It’s the characteristic that all the (major) definitions of fascism have in common, that’s why it is important to check for.
But that is exactly what I wanted to say: the EU “lacks” being a nation and the far-right has a hard time in using that on an European level, because it is hard to sell “EU was great” to people who do not feel themselves “European” as part of their core identity.
The US and the EU are abso-fucking-lutely not even close to the same degree of fascist.
Yep, did I write that somewhere, must have missed it.
You answered my comment like a counter argument, so I thought I had to drive the points home again.
I just wonder - who did the original Fascists - Mussolini & friends - used as scapegoat?
Socialists and Communists.
Dont forget jobless, homeless, disabled
The border policy is just one fascist symptom of MAGA US. There are many other more important things
Thanks for the translation?
Amen!
