When you say “sex with a minor” what you really mean is “raped a child” right?
Right?
Have they identified the 14-yr old down syndrome girl whom jeffry and Leon Black impregnated and killed her baby? Or was she one of the victims who vanished with Epestien’s 400 galons of acid and remains thrown in the ocean?
Nothing is going to come of this. He’s invincible because we’ve allowed it.
None of that “we” shit
He’s invincible because 1/3rd of the US population looked away while another 1/3rd put him into power.
But Harris was going to eat Palestinian children! Now at least the Palestinians are safe!
1/3 of voters, not the population
And the other 1/3 were accused of being hyperbolic and/or hysterical.
For real. We never stood a chance against him and el on musk manipulating the ever loving fuck out of the media and the election.
He’s a frail old man. One solid shove in the right direction would be all it takes.
forced a woman to give him oral sex when she was in her early teens
Talk about failure as a journalist. I just can’t with these assholes. They’re almost as guilty as Trump in that their word choice helps every last one of those bastards get away with it.
If the GIRL was a TEEN, then she was a CHILD, not a woman. I don’t care about the potential for alternative interpretations here. The frame placed on the situation is done with one word: woman. Not teen. Not child. Not kid. Not girl. “Woman”. Which creates a sideways shift in perception.
I am so sick of this shit.
Again, this isn’t a failure, the media is working exactly as intended. They aren’t on our side, they’re on the side of the ruling class. The ruling class bought and own the media. They aren’t going to use the media to criticize themselves.
If we want to see justice, we need to make it. We need to take action. The rules of the system protect the ruling class. We need to break the rules and break the system itself.
The ruling class and Israel control the media
Israel is a puppet state of the US. It is also controlled by the ruling class.
They wouldn’t need to blackmail our politicians if that was the case . I think you’ve got it backwards it’s us who’s occupied by them. Netynahu is calling the shots Trump is a joke
I don’t have it backwards, I promise you. Israel is a colony set up by the US and the UK with the explicit purpose of advancing their foreign policy goals in the Middle East. The US pretends that Israel is a sovereign nation because the US population would not tolerate their actions if it was their own country.
Israel destabilizes the middle east, making the region ripe for extractionism.
Not all US politicians are aligned with US/Israeli imperialist interests and thus they are bribed, but plenty of them aren’t.
Trump is a puppet, but he’s not Israel’s puppet, he’s the puppet of the primarily US-based ruling elite.
Stop spreading their misinfornation for them.
It started out that way. I don’t think it’s wrong to question the current power dynamics. Why would the US and UK care in the least of some college students are sitting in protest of Gaza? Nothing in that act changes their daily in the least. Nothing.
Unless someone else is calling the shots.
Because the US (and the UK, a satellite state of the US) support ongoing US imperialist endeavors. Protesting Israel’s continued genocide brings awareness to it, and the boycotts, divestments and sanctions (BDS) programs directly fuck up the bag, which is the entire point of colonialism, to get that bag.
Look, I totally understand the temptation to want to shunt everything bad onto Israel. Nobody wants to live in a country that does terrible things, because that makes us all feel a little guilty for not doing more to stop it. I totally get that, and absolutely there is nothing wrong with questioning it. The problem is that most people just arrive at the conclusion that the US is being controlled by Israel with very little understanding of the geopolitics of the region, because it makes them feel better to blame Israel for all of the evil happening.
We need to wake up to the reality of US Imperialism, and stop sticking our heads in the sand.
Raped a teenager. That’s what he did. He raped a teenage girl .
He raped a 13 year old girl. There. I said what should be in the headlines.
“Underage woman” is a phrase used by pedophile supporters.
You even wrote the word underage, nobody is supporting that, your point makes no sense
You didn’t read what I wrote.
“Underage woman” is an oxymoron. Woman means adult female, and cannot be described as underage without contradicting yourself. These journalists are attempting to lessen the emotional response and confuse people by avoiding saying child or teenager.
Certin News people faced justice when the Nazis fell, a lot of people forget that it wasnt just the soldier of the regime that were tried and persecuted. Tho this person likely isn’t the subject, her editer def might get looked over
Early teens…. This is so disgusting
It’s funny people seem more upset by the word choice than the rape committed and human trafficking.
Bad faith troll
Is that what you think is happening here?
In case you missed it:
It’s funny people seem more upset by the word choice than the rape committed and human trafficking.
So, you are just an actual idiot. Noted.
I’ll take any iq test against you and you will fail miserably against me.
Wow. The dumbest reply imaginable…
Yeah, cause that’s not the exact thing an idiot would say.
IQ tests are eugenics nonsense. don’t be an ablist
we’re upset that the word choice runs cover for the thing we’re REALLY upset about
Semantics?
systematic child exploitation.
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what the fuck? so… let me get this straight. you say we’re not mad about the systematic child exploitation. we say “yes we are” you say “what, specifically, are you upset about” we say “the systematic child exploitation” and then you call me an incel?
that’s…
really weird. it seems like you just want to be mad at people on the internet today. unless we can clear up whatever misunderstanding this is, i’m going to assume you’re a troll and block you because you are absolutely not behaving like someone who actually wants to do something about this problem and instead wants to do some fake moralizing about how the rest of us only care about words and you’re the only one who’s actually concerned about the sytematic child exploitation.
She was a woman by the time she was able to report it, but it’s very poorly worded.
There’s a distinct difference between how some of these terms are used depending on context. There is biological status and then there is legal status.
So be careful where & when you take issue.
Here, legal terms are appropriate due to the subject matter, and you should definitely suggest to the authors that they adjust the terms used accordingly.
Just complaing to the ether may be cathartic, but inaction is also complicit.
However teen is a teen regardless of context, as it’s a designation of age group, not a legal or biological classification. So it’s up to the reader to determine relevance of the teens age beyond that.
Even in paper days journalism deliberately packed their first and second sentences of an article with the most punchy and relevant details because they knew, with every additional sentence, readers were lost.
The line is buried. And could be stated more succinctly with “13 year old girl”, punching in the relevant details.
Instead, extra words are added. It’s deliberate. And it’s journalism’s job not to do this because a large slice of readers will hit only the key words and move on.
More details in this thread:
Ahh, the Katie Johnson video. Her testimony was corroborated by someone too.
YouTube video of Katie Johnson’s testimony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRod
Full court docket: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4154484/katie-johnson-v-donald-j-trump/
PDF of the initial complaint (WARNING very graphic): https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4154484/1/katie-johnson-v-donald-j-trump/ TRIGGER WARNING - EXPLICIT DESCRIPTIONS (Tap to reveal)
Trigger warning for her testimonial.
She also disappeared without a trace after Trump became president.
Full write up in our community https://lemmy.world/post/35298932
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Feds knew. America knew.
This is America.
And the darkest part is the sex trafficking and rape most likely is just the tip of how evil they are. They don’t just want to own sex slaves, they want, or even more likely have the upper hand in owning humanity.
i wonder when they get bored of raping kids and start having hungergame style fucked up shit or something even more horrifying. Who knows if they already do in secret.
Didn’t the files talk about killing and eating some of the kids? Pretty sure that’s what they do when they bored of them.
We had rich people eating slaves and natives since the founding of our nation.
We’ve been in hunger games since founding. They’re now moving up through the homeless middle class.
That’s called composition. A formal logical fallacy. Supersets are not homogenous. Applying what’s true about a subset to the superset is possibly correct but often isn’t.
For instance, all dogs are collies is demonstrably wrong. But all collies are dogs is true.
She’d better watch out.
Trump is good for the rich people, so anyone who threatens him threatens them.
She already disappeared.
And Israel
Again, early teens is not a woman, that’s grade school or beginning of high school:
TNR reporter Edith Olmsted wrote that “A 21-page slideshow buried in the massive trove of Epstein-related documents included allegations that sometime between 1983 and 1985, Trump forced a woman to give him oral sex when she was in her early teens,” Olmsted wrote. “When the woman bit down on Trump’s exposed penis, he allegedly punched her in the head and kicked her out. That same woman told the DOJ that Epstein had introduced her to Trump in 1984.”
The correct terminology depends on context.
As others have mentioned, when they said woman there they were referring to the present report of a woman, who was a teen and the time of the event.
Calling an adult female human a woman is not wrong.
Calling a teen a teen is not wrong.
Legally teens under 18 are also children.
Technically everyone is someone’s child.
Though not considered adults by most laws, biologically people become adults after puberty, which varies by individual. The period during puberty they are adolescents, neither children nor yet adults.
Context matters.
What are you talking about? It’s plain wrong. “Trump forced a woman” is incorrect. She wasn’t a woman then, it doesn’t matter that she is one now. He forced a child.
Fuck off with your bullshit.
What the fuck are you on mate?
He’s on Grok making more pictures for his loli file.
Please do not run cover for the hyper rich pedos running the government.
You’re not wrong.
Before the late 1800s age of consent laws didn’t exist. Like a bar mitzvah was a celebration of adulthood, at 13, iirc.
Marrying children was common. And knocking up young teen girls was normal. And this still happens…
I think the saying was/is, “old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.”
I’m genuinely trying to understand your point. Do you mean we should still follow what people were doing in 1800s? People are dog pilling on you and while it’s true 1800s people were relative brutes I’m not sure what that adds to this discussion?
That’s a lot of judgements to unpack.
Luckily, I’m not moving. Good luck with that.
‘‘Banned from community’’ I don’t know what you said but you had the right to say it. Sorry that you received punishment for writing what you thought. There are so few refuges of ‘‘free speech’’ left
Dude’s a blatant troll, I wouldn’t shed a tear.
You’re a huge fucking loser.
Says the idiot.
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Just do the world a favor and look in the mirror.
Please jesus tell me that you understand that it is not the fucking 1800s anymore.
Some say time is just an illusion.
