Anyone who thinks they can debate voters into voting for someone they don’t like after saying all that is also a complete moron. I would never question your intelligence so I assume this is simply to feel better about the situation.

It’s one of those “every accusation is a confession”. People are thinking about themselves when talking about others.

They are also normalizing “disappearances”, where they arrest someone and then they can’t be found in the system.

Both sides acting like they would have won the war. This is going to end well…

You make it sound like democracy is a linear phenomena. There are likely tradeoffs

While I agree in not surrendering any power through inaction, voting is not the only say you get. There’s 100 other things one could do as well that could make things less shitty.

It’s what Kirk would have wanted RIP

Is there a newsletter but it’s just about what evil person has died for that day? I feel like there’s a good market for that.

Guy literally has cancer. It’s friggin elder abuse what they did.

Liberals: I can fix that voter, I just need to find the right logic combo in my persuasion.

Also Liberals: if voters were rational they would vote for the lesser evil.

Keep lecturing people, I am sure it will work this time around.

Or it could be that the Democrats are so unpopular that a billion dollars can’t win them an election. No, you’re right, it’s because of Russia the Democrats failed to communicate their platform effectively.

Say the same to yourself bud. How many more people need to die before you realize the system is the problem, not the people voting. Because it seems y’all only care when it’s Americans that die.

Clinton was notorious for polling people and changing positions, but that was not by referendum. Sometimes our pundits play loose with words and pretend polling is a referendum because we don’t actually have referendums. See also “democratizing” when it just means “commodotizing”

Indeed. Democracy does not exclude anarchy and in the case of the UN it’s a voluntary union, each member is free to not participate and ignore the decisions made by rest of the union. People often criticize the UN as having little authority - that’s because it’s anarchistic in nature.

If there is a point to my example it is that society is a patchwork of ideologies, there is no “pure capitalist” society just as there is no “pure anarchistic” society. So to say one ideology does not work as totalitarian society is different then saying it does not work at all.

I mean we have the UN which doesn’t have any one nation in charge. Geopolitics tends to be anarchistic.

The only way you could think I didn’t answer that question is if you think liberals forming strategic alliances with marxists only benefits the marxists.

Because we need even more parallels with Vietnam? I mean I kinda agree but for opposite reasons. The draft is how we got people breaking into the FBI offices and revealing cointelpro. Maybe a draft will motivate enough of us to liberated the rest of the Epstein files.

If you’re writing off all liberals then your view makes sense. At our no kings the Brown Berets showed up to protect those you are spurning. Many years ago I attended a UFW march that was also protected by the Brown Berets and it shocked an out of town liberal white woman who compared the union march to the Nazis. These people tend to only see aesthetics so the march is a good opportunity to make unusual alliances. That’s the concrete achievement of my local Marxist-lennist org, but that probably doesn’t make sense to the terminally online.

What I find interesting is how we abstract away the actual work needed to keep either scenario running reflects how billionaires justify their own extremes. The heat death being a most extreme example as there is no “spare” energy for other organism to be conscious. The uploaded consciousness is detached from reality, living in a dieing universe, and still insists it has a right to exist at the cost of new venues of consciousness.

We can probably simulate a snail but me killing that wouldn’t make my wife scream at me for killing a snail.