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    Really, fuck apple for all that shit

    ~~That’s why I’m not buying their hardware, even if it often is good ~~ They just fuck you over, because they want to keep you in their fucking walled garden.

    Hopefully not getting redundant here, so I’ll just finish with a fuck them!

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      They fix bugs to keep asahi working all the time, this is literally a beta release, chill.

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        Alright

        I’m not buying into Apple stuff because of the things Apple does
        So seemingly locking other people out of using their hardware just seemed in line

        But ok, I’ll retract my comment

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          I mean, in fairness, if I read a headline that was like “in silent apple update, MacBooks with Asahi Linux installed will self destruct the lithium ion battery once it detects the user is asleep and unable to stop the explosion” I’d have been like “yeah. That tracks. Sucks that their hardware is so fucking good.”

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            But it’s not a silent Apple update. It’s literally a beta release for beta users and you have to click update to update!

            For fucks sake. If a headline said “Mr Roger’s ran someone over with his car and didn’t tell anyone about it” would you believe it or be slightly incredulous? This user didn’t even post the actual headline, which mentioned it was a beta. Does no one have critical thinking skills anymore?

            It’s like believing Microsoft purposefully puts in idiotic bugs and security vulnerabilities into their OS multiple times a month. They’re not doing it on purpose, they’re just completely incompetent.

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              “if I read a headline” that’s how I started my comment. “If I read A headline”

              I did not say anything about this one. I just expressed empathy at the users misunderstanding of the original post.

              I suggest your chemical relaxant of choice, meditation, or some masturbation, and maybe chilling out a little bit before attacking someone and claiming they have no reading comprehension. There is no reason this needs to be a hostile conversation.

              Or are you actually suggesting that Apple is open and altruistic and openly invites people to alter their systems? Given you’ve compared Apple to Mr. Rogers, it makes one wonder…

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                I understood it was a hypothetical headline, but it sounded like you were implying that that was what actually happened here, otherwise why mention “silent” at all?

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        A beta release that is absolutely littered with bugs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they did it because they broke something, or just straight up the Asahi bootloader needs to be updated.

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          … it is literally the first developer beta. Of course it is littered with bugs, like every first developer beta apple or almost everybody else puts out. That is entirely the point of the beta, to find bugs.

          People complaining about bugs in the beta have not understood who that beta is for…

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      It would be pretty egotistical to think that Apple did this on purpose. Apple just updated their shit. Now Ashai needs to update theirs.

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        Yeah, I’m sorry for that misunderstanding

        I think, I’ll need to redact a bit more of my comment

        Edit: on a second look… Sorry, I think, I did fine
        Maybe it’s not on topic anymore, but it still goes fine with my view of Apple

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    Oops, I did the upgrade and lost access.

    Easy fix: create another partition from 27, install older macOS, boot into that and change startup disk back to Asahi

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    Well… doesn’t the BETA update also say it is not for production use and might break stuff? Doesn’t it also tell you to do a proper backup of everything in case shit breaks?

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    That’s shitty, but who is seriously spending that much on Apple hardware to run Linux on it?

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      Two big use cases. You want to run MacOS and Linux on the same hardware, and you boot into each OS separately at different times.

      Or, you have old personal or enterprise hardware sitting around, and you’d like to repurpose it for Linux. That use case is a tale as old as time.

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          Apple is still updating all their arm macs, even the old M1s.

          My guess is that you’ll get a lot of people who are are on newer M series hardware, but kept the old stuff around (I’m one of those people), or you get these larger / midsize enterprises that just accumulate a shit ton of 1-3 year old computers that are perfectly fine, but are just gathering dust.

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            Just bought my first ever apple device (M1 MacBook Air), because I needed either windows or Mac for school, and I got tired of jumping through hoops with virtual machines and low end hardware on used windows machines I’d put Linux on. I miss Linux as my daily driver terribly, but I do know now that my next windows/Mac machine will be mac. And when that day comes, I look forward to putting Asahi on this little MacBook Air. It’s great hardware, and I’m hoping Asahi will have matured a lot by then and be a great experience.

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              I still use a little M1 Air as a daily driver, but I have some of the newer hardware for work, and now I want to upgrade to that stuff. The newer Apple Silicon is kind of nutty.

              Still though, for a 6-year-old machine, it’s still perfectly fine for day-to-day stuff. I only notice the crunch when I throw some of my processor intensive software development toys at it. The latest dev beta of MacOS 27 even runs great on it.

              Apple does a lot of shitty stuff, but their silicon game has been solid.

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                Honestly, I have been stunned by how well this little machine does with only 8gb of ram. It’s at least as snappy and smooth as my yoga with 16 GB of ram running Fedora was before it broke. I do miss daily driving Fedora, and I’ve been keeping a list of things that irritate about macos vs Gnome/fedora just to see how the transition goes over the next year or so. But honestly, for my workflow it’s been amazing. That said, I am primarily a browser based user and not a very techy person in general.

                Oh, also, having an actual desktop top to sync proton drive has been *amazing *

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                  Yeah, I also only have 8 gig in mine. I used to run into problems when I had multiple accounts running, with each accounts actively running Adobe apps, Figma, IDEs. That ‘lil fella couldn’t take that lol.

                  The Macs with 16gig can handle that abuse with no problem. 8 gigs, not so much. Lol.

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      A lot of people? Mac os is unbearable shit with close to zero benefits.

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          You can force windows os to behave, you can’t force mac os. They both are horrible in different ways.

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            In what ways can’t you force Mac to behave? It’s literally Unix. I run hammerspoon and have everything I need and more, stuff that windows can never do. It is missing a few things I like in Linux, but I also can’t force Linux to behave the way Mac does so it’s not like Linux is magically better either.