It literally is! You’re not God’s “partner”, you’re His creation; you’re not equals as you’re entirely dependent on Him. A little toon or sim that cannot survive without the framework God made around them can only serve his master and be grateful for the opportunity of existence.
I don’t think this (very fuzzy, seriously, pick a better word, world) word applies. You’re not God’s equal, it’s not an equal relationship. God needs nothing from us, we need everything from God.
Because for merciful justice to take place not only must the righteous be recognised for it but the ones who refused to be righteous must be also, with all that it entails. If God judged the serial rapist and the victim of rape equally, why would you even take Him seriously? Evidently whoever sees things that way has lost whatever mind they had. So God encourages you to be a good person for your own benefit (and you engage in immorality to your own detriment).
And, btw, in a vacuum everyone besides those who are actually mentally ill or have some brain tumour altering their thinking would see the same. We have the brain, the inner prosocial disposition and understanding of justice (lots of experiments done with infants point to this too), and the time to make these simple moral observations… whatever message God has decided to illuminate even the blindest among us (“why does He demand so much?”) with is just a mercy, an extra nudge in the right direction. This life came for free, be good and live forever in peace. 🙏
Again, you’re not demanded, just nudged into the right direction for your own sake (because justice requires payment, one way or another, and God is just), but of course you will do what you will and you will reap what you sow. And there’s nothing secret about righteousness. 🤔
All I see here is a sad husk of a person who has abdicated all critical thinking abilities.
Your god created humans without the ability to reason.
He put them next to a tree whose fruits somehow give humans (of which there are only two at this point) the ability to understand right and wrong. Why does this tree exist? Fuck you shut up.
He tells these two people (who explicitly cannot tell the difference between right and wrong) not to eat from this tree.
Then when they inevitably do, he damns them and every human to ever come after them to eternal damnation.
Oh, and by the way, he already knew that all of this was going to happen from the start. And did it anyway because fuck you.
But guys, he really loves you and all you need to do is dedicate your life to worshipping at his altar so maybe he won’t give you eternal pain and suffering. And you better do it the right way, or else.
Put down the Bronze Age sex manual, and join the rest of us in the 21st century.
Worshipping God is nothing more than being righteous, God’s messages and those of the prophets are just reminders/elucidations for those who don’t get it. And ofc, if you love this free experience, you’re grateful for it. And being grateful to God necessitates doing the right thing as much as possible.
You damn yourself by having a whole life filled with major immorality and not even repenting for it. I’d understand if you thought “God made us, gave us a short time here and then we all go to Hell forever regardless of what we do. He’s a sadist!”, but that’s just not the case. Such an easy, just “exchange” (again, we’re not giving God anything, we can’t): you get a freebie and if you’re not an unrepentant cunt you get a free eternal upgrade. 👍
You damn yourself by having a whole life filled with major immorality
You know literally nothing about me.
My morality doesn’t come from threats of eternal damnation.
I don’t actually need that. It seems you and I are different in that way, and I will continue to judge you for it (guess what I’m allowed to do that because I don’t have an invisible sky daddy to threaten me over it).
That’s just not the case
Wow dude, super convincing argument. Did you try that one out when witnessing door to door yet? How many hearts have you won for the lord with that stinker?
It literally is! You’re not God’s “partner”, you’re His creation; you’re not equals as you’re entirely dependent on Him. A little toon or sim that cannot survive without the framework God made around them can only serve his master and be grateful for the opportunity of existence.
Which is totally not toxic at all
I don’t think this (very fuzzy, seriously, pick a better word, world) word applies. You’re not God’s equal, it’s not an equal relationship. God needs nothing from us, we need everything from God.
If he needs nothing from us, why does he DEMAND so much?
Cuz his daddy didn’t tell him he was proud of him, so now he needs us to glaze his shitty ass. Or else.
(Or he doesn’t exist. Naturalism is a better explanation for kids being born with horrific brain cancer.)
Because for merciful justice to take place not only must the righteous be recognised for it but the ones who refused to be righteous must be also, with all that it entails. If God judged the serial rapist and the victim of rape equally, why would you even take Him seriously? Evidently whoever sees things that way has lost whatever mind they had. So God encourages you to be a good person for your own benefit (and you engage in immorality to your own detriment).
And, btw, in a vacuum everyone besides those who are actually mentally ill or have some brain tumour altering their thinking would see the same. We have the brain, the inner prosocial disposition and understanding of justice (lots of experiments done with infants point to this too), and the time to make these simple moral observations… whatever message God has decided to illuminate even the blindest among us (“why does He demand so much?”) with is just a mercy, an extra nudge in the right direction. This life came for free, be good and live forever in peace. 🙏
You literally said nothing. No answer, just a useless dogmatic diatribe.
Is he NEEDS nothing from me, why does he DEMAND everything?
All of his requirements are demands. Inflexible. And punished for eternity if not meet, unless I know the secret handshake.
How does this fulfill your original assertion?
Again, you’re not demanded, just nudged into the right direction for your own sake (because justice requires payment, one way or another, and God is just), but of course you will do what you will and you will reap what you sow. And there’s nothing secret about righteousness. 🤔
All I see here is a sad husk of a person who has abdicated all critical thinking abilities.
Your god created humans without the ability to reason.
He put them next to a tree whose fruits somehow give humans (of which there are only two at this point) the ability to understand right and wrong. Why does this tree exist? Fuck you shut up.
He tells these two people (who explicitly cannot tell the difference between right and wrong) not to eat from this tree.
Then when they inevitably do, he damns them and every human to ever come after them to eternal damnation.
Oh, and by the way, he already knew that all of this was going to happen from the start. And did it anyway because fuck you.
But guys, he really loves you and all you need to do is dedicate your life to worshipping at his altar so maybe he won’t give you eternal pain and suffering. And you better do it the right way, or else.
Put down the Bronze Age sex manual, and join the rest of us in the 21st century.
There’s so much there I didn’t say and I completely disagree with even just on reason, nvm creed… you’re fighting windmills, man.
Holy fuck you’re mentally ill.
I’m neurodivergent but I don’t think that qualifies, lol.
Don’t listen to that dude. He is a poor representation of atheist/non-religious people.
Ah but you didn’t complete the thought…
He created us, and then damned us all to eternal damnation and hellfire.
But if you literally worship him exactly how he wants, he might spare you.
And how is that not abusive?
Worshipping God is nothing more than being righteous, God’s messages and those of the prophets are just reminders/elucidations for those who don’t get it. And ofc, if you love this free experience, you’re grateful for it. And being grateful to God necessitates doing the right thing as much as possible.
You damn yourself by having a whole life filled with major immorality and not even repenting for it. I’d understand if you thought “God made us, gave us a short time here and then we all go to Hell forever regardless of what we do. He’s a sadist!”, but that’s just not the case. Such an easy, just “exchange” (again, we’re not giving God anything, we can’t): you get a freebie and if you’re not an unrepentant cunt you get a free eternal upgrade. 👍
You know literally nothing about me.
My morality doesn’t come from threats of eternal damnation.
I don’t actually need that. It seems you and I are different in that way, and I will continue to judge you for it (guess what I’m allowed to do that because I don’t have an invisible sky daddy to threaten me over it).
Wow dude, super convincing argument. Did you try that one out when witnessing door to door yet? How many hearts have you won for the lord with that stinker?
It was the “global” you, not you you, of course I don’t know you, you might just be lovely. 😅
And listen, again, believe or not, that’s on you. I’m not trying to convince you of anything, it’s not my job.
According to the Bible it’s literally your most important job.