All you have to do is avoid obvious symbols and never say certain trigger words
- “proletariat”
- “bourgeoisie”
- “class”
- “means of production”
And just try to get around the words to say the exact same thing
Funny thing is, once you strip those away, most people will nod and think you’re describing reality
This is because communists accurately describe reality
don’t use words people don’t understand, use the words they do understand
not to be patronizing but if i think someone cant consistently understand words with more than 7 letters i totally shift my way of talking and even thinking when im around them.
There are lots of words with fewer than 7 letters that you don’t know and ones with more than 7 that they do, there’s no need to be such a snob about it. Also illiteracy isn’t just something people choose for themselves in most cases.
You’re discounting like 40% of the population, and most of those are ignorant not stupid, blame public education in imperialists nations
read the prior comment closer… what are you disagreeing with?
Literally said not to be patronizing, you should always act as the romans when in rome, you gotta blend in. I’m also a total determinist, i dont really blame anyone for anything.
ok and?
most marxist analysis uses pretty big words, somewhat unnecessarily. like working class or just workers when the academic term would be proletariat. dumbing down the language can make you fly under the radar very effectively
I find that a lot of “Marxist analysis” is people using the big words as a smoke screen to mask a lack of deep understanding.
sometimes people have big words and understanding. they just don’t know another way to talk.
there is 2 ways of education an individual:
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educated them to educate others
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educate them to exclude others
because of careerism, the second is incentivized.
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ah we are agreeing?
i believe so, like here im not afraid to use big complicated words, like i remember not knowing what a mountebank is in the communist manifesto, googling it and thinking, why the fuck would you translate that as a word?
I see now. I read the first comment in a different tone but now I see what you meant. Thanks for not letting me escalate out of nothing lol.
I think it was Matt in one of the chapo episodes talks about how chuds dislike capitalism but they’re to dim to realize that and instead blame all of capitalism’s faults onto communism.
if you ask a capitalist and a communist to criticize each other, they’ll both criticize capitalism
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I live in the very underserved rural South. Can confirm.
The Alt-Right Playbook described it best, IMO. Reactionaries fundamentally believe the system itself is perfect. It relies on hierarchies, which they view not only as natural and good, but preferable. The reason problems/contradictions occur is because people step out of their “place” in the hierarchy. “They aren’t following the rules,” they say, while ignoring the rules are wrong.
So chuds will accurately describe a problem that occurs under capitalism, but explain it by blaming it on whatever scapegoat. It’s common in their rhetoric to say how an entirely white, protestant, patriarchal, heteronormative society would function flawlessly with no crime, corruption, or misallocated resources. They view everyone else as the problem and their group(s) as ontologically correct and good.
They blame all their problems on the system that’s currently oppressing them, and refuse any other economic system because it would oppress them.
At my job, I try and translate to:
- Proletariat = workers
- bourgeois = bosses
- class = working class, although I’ll hold my tongue when talking to someone who describes themselves as “middle class”
- means of production = productivity/profits
My coworkers are
’s! (so am I, see bullet point three; but I am the one true leftist at my workplace 
)That last one is tricky, but coworkers understand that they make the profitability boosts and managers crack their whips to boost productivity, while visibly monitoring other workers for slacking or stealing.
Anticommunism isn’t something people ever seriously consider, it’s more designed as a thought terminating cliche. Communism bad, because everyone say so. No thoughts required. Some words are communism words and therefore out a person as a bad guy commie. But they don’t know what any of these words actually mean, since if they did, they wouldn’t think communism is pure evil.
It relies on people knowing nothing about communism, which means that these people can also be very receptive to communist ideas, as long as you don’t use the scary communism words to describe them. Almost everyone within the working class can feel the contradictions of the system, even if they can’t fully articulate them.
I tend to avoid those when explaining my thoughts because they sound fucking weird to most people and that leads them to ignore you. Means of production is one i use cause I really dont know what else to call it that works. Also I am absolutely fine just telling people I’m a communist cause it doesn’t come with any risk for me and it means I can openly represent the ideology and not have it thought of as my own half baked political idiosyncrasies. It lets people know i’m not just speaking personally.
Means of production is one i use cause I really dont know what else to call it that works.
Tools, factories, and land. Maybe throw in offices or infrastructure, but the first three get the point across. “We’re the ones using these tools everyday to make stuff, why aren’t I allowed to borrow it for home projects? When was the last time an actual member of the Walton family stepped foot in this Walmart, if ever?”
If you just describe things that are included in the means of production, you can avoid saying “means of production.”
What you call “flying under the radar” is just effective communication and meeting people where they’re at. I try not to use jargon that my conversation partners haven’t already shown familiarity with, especially when discussing social and economic issues. Even if they’re open to what you’re saying, explaining definitions or correcting misconceptions about trigger words derails the flow of the conversation and can cause them to lose interest. Of course, anytime anyone asks me how I identify politically, I just tell them I’m a socialist so I don’t actually know anything about flying under the radar, sorry 💚
It’s like the party game Taboo
DL communists
shahed drones flying so lowOh yeah, I do this all the time. Gotta avoid minesweeper words.
