He’s still taken seriously in these organizations despite all the allegations against him. Every day this stuff gets easier. I’ve partly automated it.
You know, one of the reasons women make better feds is they don’t have such a severe, unseemly need to seek out sexual violence. I want to find the Catherine Shakdams. This guy even looks like a cop.
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Having a sexuality is normal. Joking about it in public is normal. Having a sexuality does not make you less moral. Having a sexuality is not in conflict with holding radical political values. Being heterosexual is not a sign of immorality. Joking in a stressful and grave situation is not immoral. Being sad and serious 24/7 doesn’t alleviate the consequences of a genocide. The puritanical values of the New York middle class are not universal despite the immense cultural power of the American empire.
If this guy sexually assaulted somebody, we can talk about it. But focusing on the evidence or testimonies, not on whatever this story means to you.
Exactly this. Thank you. Although I’ve never heard of this guy before so I don’t have any context, but being anti-genocide is not exactly what I’d call a radical political view tbh
no view is radical. Political acts are radical or not. Going on a flotilla and risk your wellbeing is reasonably radical, come on.
Being heterosexual is not a sign of immorality.
You lost me, sorry. I’ve seen what expectations bisexual women have of dating and sex, which are informed by having mostly dated men.
No comedy police here, if this is your idea of a joke you might not have a serious girlfriend any time soon if that’s your goal… If it’s serious then I’d rather not bother getting into the deets of what is right and wrong, it’s just proven thru reactions of gross dudes like this. Yall will trust literal rapists like channel 5 Andrew Callahan and then go and defend dudes like this for making sexist comments on a freedom boat? How come I have to focus on the apartheid and not Jacob who clearly is focused on getting his rocks off in this post? It does just spell gross to me idk yall are pretty wild in defending this tbh. Comes across as unserious at the very least.
I have a partner who happens to be American and hates the Puritanism back home that wants everybody to erase their desires. In the rest of the world, sexual desire is normal, even when you’re doing something serious with your life. And in the end, this guy’s request for nudes probably has nothing to do with sex, but with validation and proximity, but the idea that talks about sex are never about actual sex is probably inconceivable in this conversation.
By the way I’m not defending the guy. I’m attacking the pearl-clutching moralists who demand inhumane behavior from humans. The guy looks a bit like a loser for doing so, but there’s a difference between being light and being harmful.
lol I’m not a puritan. You guys are being really gross. Go talk to a woman in person without hitting on her. Actually scratch that, just leave women alone. I know they already don’t feel comfortable around you
lol I’m not a puritan
Your comments all up and down this thread say otherwise.
Actually scratch that, just leave women alone. I know they already don’t feel comfortable around you
You don’t know fuck all, but some we’re making unwarranted assumptions based on social media comments, it seems to me like you probably wear black shirts with a white square collar and like little kids, which is probably why you’re so grossed out by adults wanting to see other adults naked.
See how fucking stupid that kind of thing is?
Most of my friends are women and it might surprise you, but I’m politically active in (sex-positive) feminist collectives. You really believe the whole world is like Brooklyn and that’s your problem.
Bragging about your “feminist circles” online to make a point on a post about a man objectifying women that you’re defending is a strange choice. You should pay attention in those meetings more instead of oggling the women, maybe you’ll actually learn something.
There is a very strange western liberal tendency to draw the line in patriarchal structures at women’s sexual liberation. Sexual freedom and liberation is important but it’s not the end of your duty as a man (or even as a woman) in a patriarchal society.
I’m not gonna pretend I know what that Brooklyn comment means other than, shot in the dark, there’s a lot of rape that happens in big cities so people in general are more likely to be sexually repressed? And you think that’s a good argument against my point, that where rape culture is more prevalent they’re more, how you put it, puritan?
Please, if you can, bring up this guy & his post in your feminist circles if you’re gonna use them to make a point on the internet and let me know what they think about your take on this Berger guy’s post. Seriously I would be interested.
I’ve genuinely never seen someone cite this guy (or knew he existed) where is he being taken seriously?
he’s not citeable since he’s an struggling actor that’s friends with the anti-zionist & radlib influencer known as iamblakely.
this feels like an astro turfed post considering that his only contribution to anything is his jewish identity.
Is there more context to this? Or have we really reached a point in secular puritans discourse where asking for nudes (as a blanket ask, even, not directed at anyone in particular) is “sexual violence”?
Yeah the context would be the people who said he assaulted them, who can be found by searching his name. I prefer to give as little context as possible so I can screenshot people on here defending asking for nudes on a boat named for a symbol of the children orphaned by genocide, left with no choice but to take up arms, from which people were kidnapped and assaulted by the IDF. This being their sole political goal other than recruiting grifters like Berger with a huge online following, and shielding them because of their reach.
Now if you’ll excuse me we have an epic crossover episode between Democracy Now! and a favorite around here, Novara Media
This is the only source I found when searching:
https://israelfaqs.com/docs/who-is-jacob-berger-and-why-do-many-say-hes-not-what-he-pretends-to-be/Not gonna trust that for obvious reasons. Context matters. If this dude is raping people you should include the fucking context. Otherwise it just appears that you are helping push isntreal propaganda against flotilla activists.
I’ve found it in the first page of ddg:
Are we for real using foxnews as source or are you agreeing that this is just israel propaganda?
I’m not state-unitian, I knew nothing about Jacob Berger, and the OP has refused to clarify anything when asked. This is the first article I’ve found on the subject, which, for obvious reasons, I’ve marked as CW. Feel free to provide better sources so I can remove the Fox News one.
I think every next ant who skitters around to reveal they get their information from Israel FAQs (i.e. the first thing Google provided) rather than people like Nerdeen Kiswani is a plus.
It’s not like you would do anything if I gave you something convincing other than be quiet and glower. I know what you want, and it’s not people who support the AoR, you want entertainment from Hollywood perverts. Why don’t you wait for the Palestine movie?
Yeah Idk what the fuck this says I am telling you theres nothing on the first four pages of DDG. So provide your own context if you want people to understand instead of this multipost rant saying fuck context trust me bro.
I see zero mention of this Jacob Berger guy in here. This article appears to be about somebody named Alex trying to attack Nerdeen with molotovs and then flee to Israel? No idea how its relevant here. I do see her saying he was grifting but not that he assaulted someone. you can even search “Jacob Berger Sexual Assault” on your engine of choice and get nothing but the article you linked and a fox news one calling him a grifter. Thats it.
Doddering fool. Try searching her profile
Guy who thinks DDG (Bing, a k.a. Microsoft) is going to give him forthright information about any issue related to Palestine is a funny concept but being labelled “anarchist” just makes it perfect. I’m not saying trust me bro, bro. I’m saying keep showing how little any of you can find without my help, just like with Platner.
Why not? Do you think you have any utility to the Palestinian resistance that you wouldn’t have displayed in the past 3~ years? I think we have seen every card you have. Complain, complain, complain, the Israelis love it. At least I can feel out what information you have access to, and do something with that.
All hail JaKKKob Burger the fat pussy king of the influencer yacht
This comment is how you found out The Sameer Project is out of money. You never gave them a dime. How could I know that? Have I been invading your dreams?
Back yourself up then you cunt. Theres nothing. I can search the inside of your fucked up perspective if you want but I ain’t reading your dumb ass shit that you refuse to back up. It’d be easy to get me on your side with evidence instead of being a whole ass bitch.
Edit: and the fucking rapes would have nothing to do with Palestine for the record. Dude is American Egyptian.
Keep begging, dog. I have all the secrets in the world. One easy hint is all you get.
So that’s hardcore secular puritansim with a side of word salad. Got it.
Do you even know what secular means? How is this secular or puritan?
chobeat beat me to it, no notes on their comment.
It’s puritan because it equates sexual desire with evil, unconditionally. It’s secular because puritanism is usually associated with protestantism, but in this case it finds its way through some kind of political moralism that is only indirectly connected with the pervasive puritanism in the American society
Humans are animals but we usually wear clothes when in public spaces. There is a difference between having desires and acting on them in a way that would make others uncomfortable.
what is the threshold for that is culturally subjective. In many contexts, asking for nudes on social media is a normal thing to do.
But that’s the thing I’m not equating sexual desire with evil. I never said he was evil for being horny, or evil at all. I said he’s a pig because he’s acting like a pig. That’s also not what secular means.
So it’s a bait post then.
I think the amazing thing about redditors is you actually believe coming at people with ignorant jackassery is a contribution, then when you see the natural response you act like you deserve something different, and you’re just a widdle guy. Yes, I am baiting you into being a rape apologist so you go to hell, it’s not your fault sweet little guy, nothing you’ve ever been duped into is your fault. But really, it’s a fine fidget activity, better than yours. I won’t recommend it, as you couldn’t learn how.
I think the amazing thing about redditors is you actually believe coming at people with ignorant jackassery is a contribution
Right back at ya buddy. I’m sure the people of Palestine are eternally grateful for your incredible contribution of “vagueposting so you can screenshot comments from people not knowing the full context about the person in question.” That totally isn’t terminally online, unhinged redditor jackassery.
If you actually cared about anything you claimed to, you wouldn’t be playing these ridiculous games. When a person asked for sources regarding rape allegations, you would provide them, and if you were acting in good faith you would consider someone a rape apologist if they apologized for someone knowing that there were credible allegations. But you’re only here for the screenshots. Even if said screenshots come from people simply not knowing the full context of this one random guy that nobody’s heard of, because their knowledge comes from you internationally misleading them.
Between this ridiculous baitposting vs. soliciting nudes, it’s hard to say which is less productive, more masturbatory, and less related to advancing any sort of political cause.
Oh no, what is Palestine going to do without Lemmy? You’re so right
Oh no, what is Palestine going to do if you don’t jerk yourself off over screenshots from Lemmy? You’re so right.
And where did I claim this thread was for saving Palestine, rather than my own amusement at your expense, Mr. Objection? There doesn’t seem to be a rule against making a fool out of you people.
Like I sincerely wish you luck creating higher comedy than Geneva saying “nobody condones this or takes him seriously” about a guy who hasn’t been disavowed by any of these “activist” groups, fifteen people immediately saying “I condone him and take him seriously”, followed by somebody claiming they can’t find any stories about him on Microsoft’s version of Google.
Wow, it’s almost like the only people who care about it are Palestinian journalists you don’t follow. Three years in. Three years you’ve been killing them, and you won’t even listen. There is no more pathetic excuse for a human being than the KKKommon leftoid
The thrashing these guys are doing to defend general sexism under a guise of “you’re anti sex and actually I’m a feminist for being okay with naked woman” is astonishing. And very sad… Casual Sexism & Rape culture is huge in the online left it seems
To be clear, I didn’t say a single thing about the guy in the post or anything remotely similar to the strawman position you described. I don’t even know who this guy is. My problem is with OP acting blatantly in bad faith, saying that he’s just trying to get screenshots of people defending him while deliberately avoiding mention of the context of rape allegations that would likely make these users not defend him.
Oh wait, I forgot the magic analogy that unlocks common sense in the liberal mind: “Hey guys, I’m going to auschwitz, can you send me some hole pics, no boys!! 🙈 the journey is making my loins stir. so many crunchy bloohares around me aoooough”
So many people just itching to reveal they can’t be normal about women. I seriously hope people in here don’t post stuff like this acting like it’s normal. I’m gonna stop replying to these weirdos probably for my own good. The reaction to this is making me sick.
How to get thousands of dick pics that you definitely don’t want 😉
Why people in this comment section so sexist? This is a blatant objectification of women, he is prioritising their sexual characteristic over the fact that they are human beings. You don’t see women posting things like this. How is there nothing wrong with asking strangers to send vulnerable pictures of their naked bodies?
not everybody is American
I’m not sure what you mean by that.
Asking for nudes as being intrinsically sexist and objectifying is something that makes sense only in the American liberal middle-class discourse and mores. Outside, this stuff is a non sequitur.
Uh I’m not American but I still think ASKING women for nudes is pathetic and creepy. Do you actually do that?
Not receiving nudes. Asking for them is the weird part.
Pathetic maybe, but being pathetic is still not wrong. Creepy I wouldn’t say so. Creepy implies an indirectness and second motives: here he’s being very direct and his motives are clear.
I don’t ask for nudes, because I have no particular interest in nudes and I prefer when they are sent spontaneously. But I deliberately post horny memes on main, where I have professional contacts, to fight against cringe culture and sex-negativity.
Uh I’m not American but I still think ASKING women for nudes is pathetic and creepy
You might not be American, but you’re puritanical enough to fit right in in Salt Lake City. The only thing pathetic is being so sexist as to view sharing nudes as diminishing the woman who shared them somehow, which is the only way in which you could see it as demeaning to ask for nudes.
Why people in this comment section so sexist?
I dunno. Why are you being so sexist?
This is a blatant objectification of women
It’s not. Despite what your pseudofeminist TikTok feed tells you, it’s possible to both respect women and want to see them naked.
he is prioritising their sexual characteristic over the fact that they are human beings
No, he isn’t. Nothing about his post dehumanizes women, only invites them to engage in casual sexual activity. That’s only disrespectful to the women in question from a very puritanical, all-hetero-sex-is-evil worldview.
How is there nothing wrong with asking strangers to send vulnerable pictures of their naked bodies?
Because, and stay with me here, I know it’s a tough concept to grasp, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with sharing nudes, and therefore nothing wrong with asking for them, unless you don’t take no for an answer.
You must be new here
Well not that knew, I guess I’m just ignorant.
Oh cmon I didn’t mean it like that. It’s just a stock phrase, I’ve seen you around.
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People should send nude pictures to people who take action against the Zionist ethnostate.
What’s the problem here?
No, but you don’t understand! He’s being sexual! And he’s a cishet man! That automatically makes him a predator and a much bigger problem than the Zionism he’s actively opposing!!
And since OP refused to elaborate on context that’s the only conclusion I can draw as to what their problem here is
I mean… just being a normal guy here, it’s kinda gross no? Even as a “joke”, it’s kinda gross. Not even kinda, it’s just gross. I think OP was more concerned about the responsibility public figures have and calling him out for being weird like this is totally valid. We should be holding people accountable for things not shielding him because he’s on a flotilla. Even if he’s not a grifter other people should be telling him to shape up. I’ve seen crass YouTubers do this flotilla thing and they weren’t gross or never allegations from Palestinian Americans that he fetishizes the people he wants to “help”…
Hold him accountable for what, exactly? What’s gross about it? He’s an adult man asking adult women to send him nudes. He’s not badgering anyone, nothing about the post fetishized anyone, and he’s not sending nudes unsolicited. So what’s “gross”? Just the fact that a cishet dude is horny posting on main? Like, genuinely, if that’s not the objection, then what is?
You aren’t entitled to women’s bodies just because you “cast a wide net” and you do activism. Women are valid for calling this act sexist, childish, objectifying behavior.
He should specifically be held accountable for being a pig, just as you are being for defending him. Seriously what is wrong with you guys? Too much Chapo?
You aren’t entitled to women’s bodies
Asking isn’t entitlement. Demanding might be, but asking absolutely never is.
But you aren’t entitled to a sexless, sterile, boring world just because you’ve rotted your brain away with TikTok level gen Z pseudofeminism. Most adults enjoy sex, and will even talk about it occasionally. That’s not predator behavior, even if it’s a straight dude doing it. Fuck all the way off with your bullshit puritanism.
You think I want a sexless future because you’re being a fucking pig? Western men are truly all the same, y’all can’t even face criticism for your sexist opinions online without resorting to telling me I believe things that I don’t.
All of a sudden telling other men to act normal is me saying I don’t like sex and women and men can’t be horny, you guys have seriously twisted world views of you think Jacob’s post is OK but women calling him gross isn’t. Tell me, why aren’t you arguing with the women in this thread who don’t appreciate your pig comments, are they also anti-sex puritans?
Women aren’t your objects. Asking women randomly to send their titties and pussy pics is absolutely entitled. The fact you see it as “Just asking” is so dumb.
Insult me all you want you are not entitled to seeing anyone’s body and I sincerely hope no stupid women fall for your (or this actors) weird behavior. Don’t send these gross fuckers any pictures of yourselves ladies they’ll probably end up online
You think I want a sexless future because you’re being a fucking pig?
I know you’re at the very least on the side of the people who want a sexless future because you think I’m a pig for saying there’s nothing wrong with asking for casual/meaningless sexual activity as long as you take no for an answer and don’t bother someone who’s made it clear they aren’t interested.
And that’s all I need to know to know you’re 100% wrong about this subject. Tbh, you’re pretty fucking based on everything else I’ve ever seen you engage with on Lemmy, but you’re not even in the same ballpark as right on this. Saying that any public expression of horniness by a straight dude is inherently entitled and predatory (and that’s what you’re doing here, whether you want to accept it or not) is reactionary AF. You’re defending bourgeois sexual mores originally created to maximize the price bronze aged goat fuckers could get for selling their preteen daughters to middle aged men. There is no version of purity culture that’s compatible with a world free of domination systems.
From other comments I gather he has done things that are genuinely bad, so call him out for that. Make sure everyone contemplating sending him nudes knows who they’re sending them to. But don’t pretend him asking for nudes is in the same category of behavior. That’s not only fucked up, it’s counter-revolutionary.
Hold him accountable for being sexist. defending this in this way just says more about you than you realize.
So, to be absolutely clear: you believe a blanket invitation to women to send nudes is sexist?
Edit: nevermind. You answered that very clearly in another reply
You are a fucking child and your opinion is worth less then the dog shit I scraped off my boots this morning. There is nothing. Inherently sexist about horniness, even when it’s a cishet man being horny. Fuck your stupid puritan ideals and the sexless future you want to create.
Yeah because I call out a pig being a gross pig, I want a sexless future. Literal child thinking. You may think you aren’t acting like a fucking dog but you are. It’s okay it just shows me how most other men deal with their sexual feelings. Go and sexualize more women and call me a puritan lmfao.
Taking action? 😭 it’s a fucking boat tour where they got arrested on purpose to make a point. You are a slave.
Women are discussed by this type of pics men send. So i was thinking its something men appreciate. But i see Even men don’t want to see 🍆😅🤣
