No surprise really, those that don’t offload their thinking understand more and thus can do better at the set tasks and exams etc.

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    Maybe changing education institutions from being knowledge acquisition environments into employment indoctrination factories was a poor decision.

    A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

    They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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      Oh we agree that educational institutions are not great and that is part of the problem and why many students use the regurgitation code.

      However, on the other hand it is a worrying trend so many would rather offload their thinking to the regurgitation code that merely regurgitates the statistical average in answers and regurgitates incorrect, or entirely smashed together data.

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    students who use their brain are ahead of students who dont use their brain in every measure. in other news people who lift weights found to be stronger than people who dont. more at 11.

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    I’m doing a CompSci bachelor program right now, and I’m almost certain there aren’t any students who don’t use AI. The difference is rather between students who use AI responsibly, for learning and own benefit, and students who cheat every assignment and could barely write a line of code by themselves after 2 years of study. I estimate that between 1/2 and 2/3 are the latter kind.

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      who use AI responsibly.

      So training the LLMs only on their own data and only running them locally?

      That’s the only way to run them responsibly, all the rest is using other’s words, art etc without their consent and using too many resources.

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        Using it as a search (eg: how do I drop a column in polars?) is not good, but is less bad than “write a function for me to <assignment description>”. Given how Google and others have pushed AI to be the search method, I have a little bit of slack for people who use it like search.

        It’s still bad. I’d rather have good documents and a method to find them.

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        By responsibly I meant using it for improving and augmenting their learning experience, rather than for cheating.

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          i have never heard of being used effectively and benefited a student, students who used it more than the ones that dont fall short.

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          How would it augment and improve the learning experience? Most of the current data on AI is that the only improvement is to homework speed and quality. You don’t learn from the homework, but you get it done fast.

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              You aren’t incorrect. Homework is not a good system for actually learning anything.

              It one of the reason finnish students do better in actually understanding things, because they don’t have homework and thus are not tired out and stressed all the time when they should be playing and exploring things they enjoy.

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      Well, depends what you mean. Neural nets and actually other useful ‘AI’ they probably do. LLMs are not really all that useful and so shouldn’t really be applied anywhere.