• TAG@lemmy.world
    2·
    3 days ago

    I don’t have high expectations for this movie. The big crossover movies tend to be among the worst MCU movies in my opinion, just because they have to give every character their own storyline instead of focusing on the story the film is trying to tell. Based on the trailers I have seen, this movie seems particularly at risk for this trap.

    For some reason, the Fantastic Four are going to meet the main MCU cast, then you know they will fight until they see the goodness in each other’s hearts and become BFFs. Then the X-Men will show up, possibly as Doom’s minions or something, and the same thing will happen. Also, Captain America is back! There is going to have to be a plot line about why he leaves his world and how all the Avengers are happy to have him back.

    Let’s say the film will start with 30 minutes for the Avengers to assemble, then a half hour for each of those stories, and suddenly, there are only 60 minutes out of a 3 hour movie to tell the main story of Dr. Doom/parallel universe Tony Stark trying to take over the multiverse or whatever his plan is.

    Am I still going to go see it in theaters? Probably. I am sure I will have a few friends who will be dying to see it and will want to go see it in a group. Plus, I am sure that it will have a couple amazing set piece scenes and it will be referred to by every MCU film for the next 2 years.

  • wjrii@lemmy.world
    82·
    4 days ago

    I know styles need to evolve, and you need something really powerful to threaten the characters from the MCU, but everything about this so far is making me think it’s going to be a joyless slog.

    • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
      41·
      3 days ago

      Tbh the more confident disney seems in something / the more they hype it up, the less good I expect it to be.

      A few things they hyped up heavily:

      • Captain marvel 1 + 2, talked about a lot in lead up
      • WandaVision
      • Dr Strange 2
      • civil war - (i liked it but the setting and scale was underwhelming to people. I just think the most important thing is coherent story, and it tied together a lot of threads well, while fleshing out the 'what happened to the super soldier serum?" intrigue, fully.)
      • let’s add: Eternals
      • Thor Love and Thunder

      Not talked about a lot:

      • Spiderman films (Sony does the marketing instead and has to focus on keeping the info hidden)
      • Wonder Man
      • GotG 3 in my opinion, but was kind of riding on its own success.

      It’s not a strict rule but you can sort of tell embarrassment hyping apart from genuine excitement. The actors in it don’t seem to know what the story is for secret keeping purposes which might heavily harm the quality of acting and overall storytelling. So they have not seemed enthusiastic.

      • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
        3·
        3 days ago

        Don’t get me started on star wars either. It’s a completely fixed rule for disney star wars that the stuff they think is great is crap, and the stuff they forget to market is excellent.

      • wjrii@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        Certainly could happen, and a thorough exploration would be really interesting, LOL.

        In particular for this one, the trailers with all the multiversal sad-sacks sitting around and listening to Sue and Thor seem to imply that Doom is so overpowered that the heroes are gonna be on the run/in hiding most of the movie and get their asses kicked so they can have some villain-credibility.

        I don’t plan to revisit Harry Potter, but it reminds me of their penultimate movie where everybody’s just gray and depressed and trying not to die.

        Doomsday is also going to be leaning a LOT on previous projects to make us give even a single shit about the ridiculously huge number of people they’ve drafted in, which we specifically told they were going to try to do less.

        • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 days ago
          The russo brother, early on, kept on saying there's something abiut doom or the film that will completely subvert viewers expectations or make them see previous films in a different light, which makes me think:
          • That Doom is going to reveal he rewrote history to allow the heroes to win, or something - or simply that he has the power to rewrite their faces, so “all those films were meaningless.” And this would make him “morally grey” because it is by virtue of him as big bad that the heroes are allowed to be heroes,
          • similarly he may be revealed to have fought Kang this whole time, allowing the heroes to carve their own path through history
          • Or it’ll be some “Doom is iron man” stuff that was made too obvious already
          • wjrii@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            Ooh, we all know how well genre fans take it when their expectations are subverted in a way that makes them re-evaluate previous entries in a series.