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Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]@hexbear.netBanned to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

it's pretty hilarious how death rates are up 30% and everyone's sick and wondering "what that weird stomach bug is"

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it's pretty hilarious how death rates are up 30% and everyone's sick and wondering "what that weird stomach bug is"

Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]@hexbear.netBanned to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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    “What could it beeee! Also why are you still masking?”

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      Folks were giving me grief for masking up when I caught it while visiting my grandma. Well, they can eat my ass, my 80 year old Grandma did not contract Covid because I took it seriously and masked and isolated.

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        fidel-salute-big

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        Make sure youre better before you let anyone near your ass lol

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          eating ass is probably a huge vector for covid since it stays in your body (and probably your stools) for like 2 years

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      Deadly august flus are totally common right?

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    Was supposed to video chat with my friend the other day.

    he hits me up and goes “sorry man I can’t talk today. I’m sick and can’t get out of bed.”

    With a cold? A cold has so knocked you on your ass that you haven’t been able to get out of bed for days? Of course he won’t actually test so to him he just has a cold.

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      To be fair, I recently had an illness of some sort that fatigued the absolute fuck out of me. I tested 6 times for COVID and all of them came up negative. Still have no idea wtf it was.

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        the BEST covid tests have 80% accuracy on the BEST day to test

        your shitty rapid test prob has 60% accuracy on that day, and declining every day afterwards

        alternatively your immune system is fucked from covid and now colds and flus fuck you up

        the best way to test for covid is stool tests but crackers are dumb so this doesn’t happen

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          Or it could be the chronic fatigue I’ve been dealing with for almost 15 years now. I just haven’t dealt with it in about a year so I had forgotten about it.

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      • spectre [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        A “common cold” can still knock you on your ass for sure

      • coolusername@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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        I had a bacterial infection of the tonsils but my throat didn’t even hurt. Symptoms were basically flu-like with fever, chills, and headache. It was my first time having such a thing, no idea how I contracted it.

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      The last couple of time I’ve thought I’ve been sick I used the tests I got from Biden but they always come back negative and so has my partners. I feel like/assume the tests don’t do a great job with the new strains

      E: not saying people shouldn’t test this just reminded me about my frustration around testing

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        Yeah the rapid tests can only really tell you if you have it, they can’t really confirm a negative. The CDC recommendation is to test twice within 48 hours, thrice in 72 if you’re having symptoms. Which sort of negates the usefulness of the free tests when you’re only giving out like a couple per household. We need free and abundant PCR testing.

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        They also might have expired, and have a pretty bad false-negative rate.

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      This actually is what happens to me every time I get a cold, the flu, RSV, anything other than just seasonal allergies.

      A few years back I had a cold for like 6 weeks. Tested negative for Covid, Influenza, and RSV multiple times each during the illness but could barely even make it to the bathroom, drink, or eat.

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        rat-salute-2 as someone whose body also goes “you must sleep for 18 hours straight anytime you feel bad” I get it.

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        huh maybe it’s a similar thing for him then. I still think he should test, but of course he’s more concerned with convincing me that covid is over than in taking care of himself.

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          Yeah, he absolutely should test.

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        Was it like that for you in 2018 and prior though?

        If you test negative for COVID, you often still have COVID. the PCR tests are only 80% accurate in optimal scenario (only 80% of infected people actually test positive, on the peak viral count day of infection, so the practical accuracy is more like 60%)

        so the rapid tests are prob 50% accurate if we’re very generous

        covid also destroys your immune system so even if you’re getting knocked out by colds, as long as that reaction was post-2019, then it’s still caused by covid

        not trying to dismiss your experiences, you may just have something else that was already there. But if colds and flus began knocking you out in the last 5 years, then yea that’s either literal covid or covid-induced

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          If you test negative for COVID, you often still have COVID. the PCR tests are only 80% accurate in optimal scenario (only 80% of infected people actually test positive, on the peak viral count day of infection, so the practical accuracy is more like 60%)

          source on this? especially the numbers. My understanding was PCRs are typically very sensitive, and tend to stay positive for far longer than people are actively experiencing symptoms or contagious, which doesn’t line up with you saying “80%” on the peak viral count day of infection.

          What I’m seeing is confirmed false negative rates somewhere below like 5%, though mostly studies from earlier in the pandemic.

          Rapid tests are straight trash though

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                  Talking about PCR tests here

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Yep, it’s been like that ever since I was born. I just have a poor immune system.

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          covid also destroys your immune system so even if you’re getting knocked out by colds, as long as that reaction was post-2019, then it’s still caused by covid

          Source for the “destroys immune system” claim? This isn’t something I’ve heard before. Anecdotally, I’m not getting sick nearly as often as I did before COVID.

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            https://time.com/6306361/covid-19-immune-system/

            https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(23)00796-1

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              Thank you!

              The first link says there are “changes” to the immune system, but doesn’t seem to suggest that the immune system is actually weakened.

              I might have missed something, but I’m not seeing anything suggesting that we are more prone to viral or bacterial infection due to COVID. It seems to be saying that immune response is heightened, not weakened. That’s not necessarily a good thing either, as an overly aggressive immune system carries its own problems. They seem to suggest that “Long COVID” could be some sort of an autoimmune issue.

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                https://libguides.mskcc.org/CovidImpacts/Immune

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                  Thank you for that as well, but again: I’m not seeing support for a claim that COVID trashes the immune aysyem. In that link, like the earlier one, there are observations that suggest both weakened immune response and excessive immune response, both having potentially harmful effects.

                  It’s one thing to point out that COVID affects the immune system. All three of the above links go well above and beyond my own understanding and comprehension to demonstrate that certain changes to the immune system are occurring. But, what isn’t so clear is the actual effects of these changes. They are saying, for example, that they have observed COVID reducing CD8+ T-Cell response, which sounds really bad. But does that reduced response actually translate into a greater susceptibility to infection?

                  I guess what I’m asking for is less focus on the tree,.and a broader view of the forest. For example, are there any studies showing the prevalence and severity of non-COVID infections, before and after COVID? What transmissible diseases, if any, have surged concomitant with COVID? Are the micro-scale observations documented in the above links correlated with macro-scale effects?

                  Just to be clear, I’m not trying to push an agenda here; I honestly do not know the answers, and the underlying biology is well over my head. When I start repeating the claim that COVID trashes the immune system, I want to know what I mean.

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    FYI this seasons Flu and COVID boosters are now available. get vaxxed!

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      i’m probably putting mine off til october or so to see if i can survive the holiday season without getting covid this year

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        Yeah, at $200 a pop, I gotta time it for my money’s worth.

        I wonder if novavax is any cheaper.🤔

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          i am very lucky to be technically poor enough to get it free from the state

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            :Cries in Florida:

            Lol, I looked at the Florida hhs website, because other states are giving away vaxxes, and mine is bragging about not shutting down a school during a measles outbreak because it didn’t turn into a disaster. doomjak

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        That’s what I’m doing! We can’t afford to take multiple days off for different things, so we’ve got everything for everyone in the family packed into one single Friday in October every year:

        • Flu and COVID vaccines.
        • Eye exams.
        • Teeth cleaning.
        • Putting a finger up my ass for fun Cancer screening for bad-ass dads.
        • Tiddy squeezer Mammogram and gyno visit for mom.
        • Blood draws for labs.
        • Pancakes for dinner!!!
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          fun filled day!

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      Not in Poland, because our government had to get big mad at Pfizer

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    Source so I can dunk on libs?

    I’ve been diligently masking and handwashing and I feel a tingle in my throat like there’s an illness coming on :/. I’ve seen exactly two masked people in the entirety of the last year.

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      I hope it’s not the Rona. If you do test positive try to get Paxlovid if you can. It stopped my symptoms overnight.

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      https://www.reddit.com/r/askTO/comments/1f543q5/is_everyone_getting_sick_lately/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/1dfaipb/what_is_the_reason_everyone_is_sick/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/plano/comments/1dzj928/why_is_everyone_sick_right_now/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/Adelaide/comments/1f9iayq/constantly_getting_sick/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/sandiego/comments/1f7g88k/i_feel_like_everyone_is_sick_right_now_whats/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/comments/1f2trj9/i_am_seeing_a_lot_of_people_getting_sick_whats/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/FortCollins/comments/1f77ahb/sickness/

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        My husband just spent five days in a Plano hospital. They took a chest xray and a chest CT, and tested him for flu and RSV. Refused - refused - to test him for Covid.
        Which tells me cases are on the rise and the local hospitals don’t want the numbers associated with them.
        Same thing happend two years go at a different Plano hospital. He developed a fever and symptoms while in the hospital recovering from surgery. Hospital absolutely refused to discuss Covid, consider Covid or do a Covid test. Two days later I had Covid. (I had been masking everywhere except occasionally alone in the room with him.)
        Then they tested him. And immediately sent him home so that I, so sick I could barely move, could continue his surgical recovery care at home. Those bastards.

        wtf hospitals just straight up refusing to test for COVID.

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          pretty soon the all-cause general mortality rate will be doctored as well

          all data will be even more fake than it already is and millions will die and their deaths will not even be registered in order to keep up the facade of normalcy

          they are already banning masks and banning covid tests

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            Which states have made masking illegal? Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida I think? I’m pretty sure a few states have also banned reporting on covid numbers. Florida was foaming at the mouth over it.

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        That wastewater level spike in the askto thread wtf

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        I knew everyone was sick here, but that’s impressive. I’m still curious about the death rate stat.

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          haha I don’t know what I was thinking about. For some reason I was focused on the “what is this stomach bug” part of the post and for some reason thought you were asking for a source on that lol

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            lol, that’s fine. Thank you either way :)

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      looks like excess deaths in the USA as of June were <10%

      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?country=~USA

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        Which is obscene. Outside of a natural disaster, if you were to just randomly kill off millions of your elderly and immunocompromised population you would be running a negative excess mortality for years.

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          my personal favorite (not) is that traffic fatalities are up :(

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            Possibly also related to COVID, since it affects people’s brains.

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            I almost got hit by TWO different drivers on Tuesday, within minutes, and immediately encountered THREE other shitty drivers.

            The first was a truck that ignored a stop sign and almost T boned me. The second was some jackass I guess not paying attention behind me because the car in front of me stopped, I stopped, and then I hear screeching brakes behind me and see this car turned at an angle like a foot behind me, almost fucking hit me

            while i was looking behind me processing that, some dipshit turning left across traffic decided now was a good time to squeeeeeze through the narrow gap between my car and the one in front of me, fucking jackass

            Then within literally a minute of that Im being tailgated real bad by some shithead who rides my ass until he peeled off into a turning lane at 60mph

            Then I’m at the store, driving in front of it, car in front of me stops for pedestrians… and then DOESN’T FUCKING MOVE. FOR LIKE, 30 SECONDS, WHILE I’M GOING HEY WHAT THE FUCK, THEN THEY START CREEPING FORWARD AT 2MPH AHHHHHHHH GET OUT OF MY FUCKING WAY

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            yea

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          “The Leftovers” was a show about how 2% of the population vanished into thin air simultaneously. The world goes fucking bananas trying to figure it out and come up with an explanation. It was aired from 2014 to 2017.

          It’s almost comical now that we’re “”“post”“”-covid. It’s killed around 0.4% of the US population. Looking back at the show, the government was way too competent and people were way too rational. Zombie shows/movies have been the same way. Not only do people try to hide or ignore their symptoms, other people will deliberately risk infection to “own the libs” or whatever the fuck.

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            Zombie shows/movies have been the same way.

            zombie shows are about the 1% of the population that is not human cattle

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            Lol yeah, post-apocalyptic porn is way too optimistic.🤦

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        Denmark, Dec 17 & 25, 2023

        26% & 25%

        agony-shivering

        Don’t worry though, “It’s a disease that is here to stay and must eventually be normalised” [-Danish CDC: SSI]

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      ive also been masking in an area where no one else does it’s so frustrating

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    mission-accomplished-1mission-accomplished-2

    dem

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    I was just in a stuffy auditorium with 1000 other students for an hour (I did not know in advance that I was going to be there), so I’m pretty sure I’ll get sick. meow-tableflip

    I need to start bringing a mask in my book bag, even if nobody else on campus wears one. I managed to make it all these years without the rona (until now?)

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    Could be west nile

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      It got dr. fauci. shrug-outta-hecks

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        Didn’t finish the job though. disgost

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    REAL. I’m still testing negative on the covid tests I am still going through from the last time I got some free ones (and thus I am pretty sure they don’t detect the new strain) but I am convinced this is what I have because charles-agony my entire body is sore, my throat is still raw from vomiting every other hour Tuesday night after bed, and I keep coughing.

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      You may have to swab your throat to get a positive on the cheapo tests.

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        agni-pain my parents & PCP both instilled the nose and mouth dual swab back when the rapid tests came out to me but unfortunately I either am just covid negative (lucky) or the tests are just too old. Will get a PCR tomorrow inshallah

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    Basically going to have a double to triple flu season every year now for the foreseeable future …

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      triple flu

      the triple flu or “captain trips” for short

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      Quarantines based on contact tracing, ample sick leave, culture of wearing a mask when feeling sick, easy access to tests, vaccines.

      If every country did it, covid would still be around, but getting stuck in quarantine would become a less and less frequent annoyance. Eventually the spread would be low enough that the mutation rate would settle down, and vaccines would start being more effective.

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      exposure to the virus does not grant immunity. notice how it’s still raging

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            Covid is a virus which harms the immune system.

            That’s the neat thing! it’s a virus which harms every system!! thank you ACE2 receptors!!!

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                I dont really think thats correct Ulysses

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          It does grant a certain degree of immunity, especially in terms of reduced symptoms and effects upon following sickness

          yea, instead of dying you now develop AIDS and cancer and can’t walk 10 yards and lose your sense of taste for 3 years straight

          it grants a degree of immunity that is so small in comparison to the virus’ effects that it doesn’t matter in absolute terms

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              If your definition of immunity is “doesn’t kill you”, sure it doesn’t kill you. Usually.

              But if you take the typical idea of immunity as “immune to this disease once you’ve had it” then catching covid does not make you immune at all. With some people catching it within 3 months or less of a previous infection. And given the rising evidence we’ve seen of how long covid occurs at startlingly higher rates from subsequent reinfections, it’s laughable that you would even consider the notion of immunity to covid at all. It has proven to move faster than we can adapt to it naturally or with science.

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                  It’s literally the same as with the common cold or with the flu

                  no it isn’t please stop concern trolling with technical truths

                  I support wearing facemasks when symptoms appear

                  it spreads asymptomatically, this does nothing and is libshit

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      Honestly idfk at this point because the numerous mammalian wildlife reservoirs means that even strict quarantine procedures for whatever length of time necessary to stamp it out in human populations means it will inevitably resurface anyway, at some point, somewhere, when bat coughs on a dude or something.

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      People dont ‘get immunity’ to seasonal viruses, thats why theres constantly updated flu shot every year. Not enough people get the shot, kncluding me sometimes, but with the flu its mostly just a mild irritation for a few days with minimal lasting effects. Still, less people would get it if everyone would mask up and get vaccinated, as we saw during covid when barely anyone got the flu due to wearing masks. This isnt a complicated social problem, masks protect people from germs of all kinds, and the more people wearing them, especially when theyre feeling sick, the better off the rest of the population will be. Especially since covid can have such lasting effects.

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    The Gulf War COVID-19 Pandemic Did Not Take Place brump corona-whitehouse

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    Never understood that. Since covid hit I have tested obsessively every time I get a stomach ache, a cough, clogged sinuses, anything that’s even one covid symptom. Never had it (all tests returned negative) and am an N95 enjoyer, and I’m still worried as fuck.

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    My sense of smell has been weaker for a few years now.

    I don’t think it’s covid in my case though… Probably the vinyl and shit I breathed in during my foray into manufacturing. I probably have 10x the microplastics in my body than most people…

    It did fuck up my sister’s sniffer though.

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