One and the same… the issue of climate change is a byproduct of our political and economic systems
What a great time to not have kids!
(Sorry parents of Lemmy… you’re probably losing your mind over this shit, and rightfully so. Sincerely, best of luck to you all)
It’s always a great time to not have kids! But yeah, now more than ever…
…umm, now what?
I can’t put them back, can I?
Can I get one o them post-birth abortions Republicans are always talking about?
Sorry, no refunds.
It’s fine, I have my own depression spiral that distracts me from the real world problems
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Climate collapse is a problem now, but only really gets existential over decades. We’re seeing fascism take control here and now, over mere weeks.
Yeah and the fascism is already proving to want to pour gas on the burning planet. A fight against US fascism is two birds kinda deal
If we get some good Rossby waves locking heat domes in the right places, climate change could starve a whole bunch of people in a short order. It only happens in a few models, so maybe we should just carry on ignoring the problem. We definitely haven’t been seeing headlines about awful climate problems arriving decades sooner than the models predict with frequent alarming regularity.
And the terrorism, remember how terrorism was being used to scare everyone for more than a decade?
Does it compare? Terrorism threat was fabricated (or at least its scope) while fascism’s real and alive.
Oil is set to run out as soon as 40 years from now. Explains the American panic to invade oil nations.
We really don’t need oil as much as the idiots in power seem to think we do. We should really be rationing the stuff and investing in green energy, but the idiots in power are only looking at the next quarter, because they are legally required to do so, in the private sector.
There’s no way that is true. As more permafrost melts we will find more oil.
They were saying that in my dad’s college textbooks, 40+ years ago. Scarcity makes previously un-economic sources more viable and encourages hunting for new sources.
Edit: which, I guess “other countries” could fit into “previously un-economic sources”, grimly.
That’s incorrect. We will not run out of oil. The eroei will go up and increasingly everything will be electrified with cheap solar and wind. Coal is already uncompetitive by price.That’s not to say we won’t have massive warming but demand will start to decline and we will never actually run out of oil.
It was a generalization about some estimates. Your comment is more accurate. We are exhausting scarce and finite resources. Economy will pivot to other sources when the cost is no longer effective.
But all those estimates might be wrong, cars are being electrified faster and the way China basically made all the solar panels worldwide they are making a ton of super cheap EVs. They are cheap and not amazing but they crucially will mean the global south will probably use them and not buy a billion more ice cars.
Demand for oil might drop sharply while there is still plenty of supply in 20-30 years.
thanks for reminding me 😒
Bruce Campbell?
He wasn’t wrong just because he happened to be an asshole…
From the perspective of most life on Earth, whatever inturrupts this troublesome, disruptive, cancerous species fastest would probably be more of a cure.
No, those are eco fascist talking points. Eco fascism is still fascism. Humanity isn’t a virus, and this system isn’t normal or “in our nature” or similar drivel. This is the result of capitalism and overconsumption driven by the 1% inundating us with an incessant stream of propaganda (ads) that are explicitly designed to psychologically manipulate us. America is one of the biggest offenders for this, but other countries do it as well.
We don’t need to all have cars, the latest clothes/tech, eat meat for every meal, have as many kids as possible, live in spread out suburban hellscapes with large yards and oversized houses, etc. We are capable of turning things around and establishing that equilibrium with our environment where we can thrive alongside nature. We’re a long way off from it, but more people are seeing the cracks in the system and starting to realize we need major changes.
You can talk all day about what we “don’t need” but we’re sleep walking into oblivion and even several nation states being visited by 3 ghosts in the night won’t get the world to stop. And once we live in hell and are dying in swaths to drought, hunger, and a new scale of weather events, there’s nothing to be done.
You say we’re capable of turning things around, I say we’ve proven in the short time in our history that we’ve been capable of altering our habitat against us that we’ve proven again and again and again and again and again and again that humans will choose the short term gain of what’s in it for MEEEEE today over what’s in it for the species tomorrow every time in everything but empty feel good rhetoric while our actions go the other way.
Live in hope if you need a paci, but hope in this case has as much basis in reality as appealing to the virtue of the free market. False hope is a terrible thing.
Ok doomer. I love how convenient the “It’s too late! We’re already fucked and we’ll never change!” narrative is for just sitting back and doing nothing to make things better. I understand it’s hard, so live checked out and in a spiral of fear and anger at humanity if you want while those of us who give a shit try to fight back and make changes.
Humans aren’t a monolith, and putting yourself over anyone else isn’t a trait inherent to humanity. Plenty of cultures value the group over the individual, just not America, and America is paying for it as it sets itself on fire.
The Earth’s climate is a monolith, one big system we are all subject to, and this is a pass fail test for the species. Feel free to tell the CAT 6 hurricanes about your nation’s carbon footprint if you think it will help.
I’m not reveling in the doom, I’m living life, aware the outcome for this species is bleak. I don’t respect self-delusion.
This species has been at the brink of what it thought was surely economic, ecological, and societal collapse a bunch of times in its existence.
Maybe we’ll get past this one, or maybe Malthus will have turned out to be right.
All species spread from when they evolve as far as they can based on their niche. Humans just happen to be competitive in every environment. But lots of plants and animals have spread to every part of the earth, they’re just not as noticeable.
And don’t forget the bird flu!
Don’t worry. It hasn’t forgotten about you.
Sad but true
As I said recently: I can’t be too worried about the economy when I’m so worried about the fascism.
